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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Ada 2005 puzzle
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 10:19:20 +0200
Date: 2012-07-22T10:19:20+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1k3eqp61flhso$.ytgqehw2zf5d.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: op.wht8i7bgka8ora@aspire.local

On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 12:00:33 +0400, Vasiliy Molostov wrote:

> Dmitry A. Kazakov <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> яПНяПНяПНяПНяПН(яПН) яПН яПНяПНяПНяПНяПН яПНяПНяПНяПНяПНяПН Sun,  
> 22 Jul 2012 11:41:04 +0400:
> 
>> declare
>>    X : Boolean;
>>    Y : Boolean := False;
>> begin
>>
>> Note, I intentionally take a most elementary type.
> 
> its better set it to tagged type. and in this case you will get  
> "initialize(x)".
> 
> Does you mean that initialize should be renamed to construct?

No. Ada's Initialize is not a constructor. A constructor cannot be a
procedure because there is no way to operate a not yet existing object.
Initialize takes already constructed argument, it is indeed an
[user-defined] initialization.

[Constructors are always generated by the language. They could call some
hooks, like Initialize, at certain stages of construction process. These
hooks can be shaped as functions and procedures.]

> Does "False" is a construction for Y?

False is a value (actually, an expression yielding a value of the
designated type). Y is constructed in a way that False becomes its first
value.

>> Construction operates on the object's type. Initialization does on the
>> object's value/state.
> 
> Before you told that this one converts from raw memory into well formed  
> typed object.

Yes. It is a type conversion: none -> a type
 
> I suppose that setting up state/value of raw memory can completely define  
> any typed object.

Accompanied by setting the designated type. Initialization is a part of
construction.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-26 15:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-12 12:54 Ada 2005 puzzle Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-12 15:48 ` Adam Beneschan
2012-07-12 16:34   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-19  6:53     ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-19  7:55       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-20  2:22         ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-20  7:20           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-21  0:04             ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-21  8:34               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-24  2:38                 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-24  4:23                   ` Adam Beneschan
2012-07-24  7:54                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-25 23:39                       ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-26  7:41                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-26 13:08                           ` Simon Wright
2012-07-26 13:55                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-27  9:42                               ` AdaMagica
2012-07-27 10:32                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-27 11:58                                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-07-27 13:04                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-28  9:48                                       ` AdaMagica
2012-07-28 10:37                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-28 16:59                                           ` AdaMagica
2012-07-28 18:21                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-19  8:04       ` Maciej Sobczak
     [not found]         ` <juaghb$fv9$1@munin.nbi.dk>
2012-07-20  7:30           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-21 17:21             ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-21 19:03               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-21 19:37                 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-21 20:23                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-21 20:53                     ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-22  7:41                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-22  8:00                         ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-22  8:19                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2012-07-22  9:06                             ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-22  9:34                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-20  8:09           ` Maciej Sobczak
2012-07-20  8:27             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-20 11:30               ` Maciej Sobczak
2012-07-20 12:49                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-21 22:46                   ` Maciej Sobczak
2012-07-22  8:03                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-22 10:08               ` Florian Weimer
2012-07-22 11:18                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-21  0:12             ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-22  9:52       ` Florian Weimer
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