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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Ada vs Eiffel - Ada programmer approach
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 09:39:51 +0200
Date: 2009-06-09T09:39:51+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1jyf6p60hv1n4$.1pavbtr5qwfnz$.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: h0k4o9$e37$1@munin.nbi.dk

On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 17:52:27 -0500, Randy Brukardt wrote:

> "Robert A Duff"  writes:
> ...
>> An invariant (whether it be a pragma, or some special syntax) would be
>> attached to a type, and would mean "all objects of this type have
>> this property, always" (except that maybe objects can temporarily
>> violate their invariant, so long as the code puts it back).
>>
>> A related concept that has been discussed is "user-defined constraints".
>> I'm not sure what the difference is, exactly -- I think with user-defined
>> constraints, you can't "temporarily violate".
> 
> A user-defined constraint applies to a view (usually via a subtype), while 
> an invariant applies to a type (always).

I do not see any difference. Invariant is merely a private constraint.
User-defined constraint is a [public] part of the invariant.

> For instance, a user-defined 
> constraint can apply to a formal parameter but not to the actual parameter 
> object (just as any other constraint).

Hmm, I think this confuses constraints put on a type/subtype with
discriminants of an object. Obviously, any combination of discriminants'
values determine some anonymous subtype with a corresponding invariant.
That is an invariant of the object only in the sense that the object has
this anonymous subtype. Objects do not have invariants.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-09  7:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-24  8:39 Ada vs Eiffel - Ada programmer approach Tomek Walkuski
2009-05-24 11:49 ` anon
2009-05-24 12:26   ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-05-24 12:17 ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-05-24 16:31 ` Pascal Obry
2009-05-25 16:32   ` Rugxulo
2009-05-26 13:37   ` Ludovic Brenta
2009-05-26 14:51     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-05-26 17:26       ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-05-26 17:39         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-05-26 17:59           ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-05-26 19:52             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-05-26 20:14               ` Pascal Obry
2009-05-26 20:25                 ` Pascal Obry
2009-05-26 21:28                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-05-26 18:23       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2009-05-26 15:07     ` Tim Rowe
2009-05-26 16:37       ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-05-28  8:37         ` Nicholas Paul Collin Gloucester
2009-06-01 16:22         ` Tim Rowe
2009-06-04  7:35       ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-06-04  9:46         ` Martin
2009-06-04 12:16           ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-06-04  9:56         ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2009-06-16  6:58         ` ardjussi
2009-06-16 17:22           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2009-05-26 18:21     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2009-05-26 18:35       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-06-04  7:39       ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-06-04  9:02         ` Ludovic Brenta
2009-06-04  9:19           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-06-04 12:14             ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-06-04 14:14               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-06-04 16:45         ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2009-06-04  7:30     ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-06-04  7:55       ` Ludovic Brenta
2009-06-04  8:45         ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-06-04  9:03           ` Ludovic Brenta
2009-06-04 13:25         ` Robert A Duff
2009-06-04 13:39           ` Martin
2009-06-04 13:08             ` stefan-lucks
2009-06-08 12:41           ` Samuel Tardieu
2009-06-08 19:37             ` Robert A Duff
2009-06-08 22:52               ` Randy Brukardt
2009-06-09  7:39                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2009-06-10  6:55               ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-06-10  6:58               ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-06-10 11:10                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-06-04  7:04   ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-06-04  6:04 ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-06-06 14:27   ` Marco
2009-06-06 15:37     ` Tomek Wałkuski
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