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From: nospam@see.signature (Richard Maine)
Subject: Re: another way to shoot yourself in the foot?
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:22:14 -0700
Date: 2008-07-10T14:22:14-07:00	[thread overview]
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In-Reply-To: jxudk.215921$SV4.165561@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net

Dick Hendrickson <dick.hendrickson@att.net> wrote:

> James Giles wrote:
> > Craig Powers wrote:

> >> Is that actually possible without lying about an interface?  i.e. Is
> >> it possible to pass an INTENT(IN) dummy as an actual argument to a
> >> more permissive dummy argument in another routine (no intent or
> >> intent OUT)
> > 
> > It's not permitted.  The standard doesn't require implementations to
> > verify that it's not done.  That is, it's not one of the kinds of error
> > that the standard requires implementations to detect and report.
> > 
> You're partially wrong, James.  It is permitted to pass a dummy
> with INTENT(IN) to a subroutine that doesn't specify either
> INTENT(INOUT) or INTENT(OUT).  You can pass them to a subroutine
> that doesn't specify intent and even potentially modifies
> its argument.  You can't lie in an interface, but you can
> call routines that don't have an interface.  Those routines are
> required to do the right thing; but the compiler isn't required
> to detect violations.

I think you and James are saying the same thing. Your "those routines
are required to do the right thing" translates to James' "it is not
permitted [to do the wrong thing]". Both of you also say (correctly)
that the compiler isn't required to catch such an error.

And note that I think this is a diferent matter than the original
question. I read the original question as "can you lie about the
interface [presumably referring to separate compilation of an interface
body and an external procedure]?" Presumably Craig was reading it
differently because with my reading "can you do this without lying about
an interface?" becomes a tautalogical (if that's a word) question.

And I'll claim that this posting of mine doesn't count as replying to
the thread I said I wouldn't post in, as I'm just replying to you three
instead of to the pseudo-OP (pseudo because he wasn't literally the
original, but he resurrected it as pretty much a new topic).

-- 
Richard Maine                    | Good judgement comes from experience;
email: last name at domain . net | experience comes from bad judgement.
domain: summertriangle           |  -- Mark Twain



  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-10 21:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-20  9:03 another way to shoot yourself in the foot? fedya_fedyakoff
2008-06-20  9:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-06-20  9:48   ` fedya_fedyakoff
2008-06-20 10:01     ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-06-20 10:05 ` christoph.grein
2008-06-20 10:26   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-06-20 16:12     ` Adam Beneschan
2008-06-20 15:48   ` Adam Beneschan
2008-06-20 19:27   ` Robert A Duff
2008-06-20 23:37     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2008-06-21  8:56       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-06-22 20:44         ` Robert A Duff
2008-06-23  7:49           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-06-24  4:02             ` george.priv
2008-06-24  7:30               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-06-24 17:16                 ` Robert A Duff
2008-06-24 19:15                   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2008-06-24 20:31                     ` Robert A Duff
2008-06-24 20:50                       ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-06-24 23:02                         ` Robert A Duff
2008-06-24 23:42                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-06-24 21:24                       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2008-06-24 23:24                         ` Robert A Duff
2008-06-25 15:07                       ` Adam Beneschan
2008-06-24 14:59             ` Adam Beneschan
2008-06-24 16:41               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-06-24 17:20                 ` Robert A Duff
2008-06-24 17:52                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-06-24 23:35                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-06-25  8:09                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-06-25 10:32                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-06-25 12:06                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-06-22 20:37       ` Robert A Duff
2008-06-22 21:25         ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2008-07-04 20:52           ` Colin Paul Gloster
2008-07-04 22:15             ` (see below)
2008-07-05 16:06               ` Colin Paul Gloster
2008-07-05 13:38             ` Gary Scott
2008-07-05 16:42               ` Colin Paul Gloster
2008-07-05 19:00                 ` Gary Scott
2008-07-09 19:39                   ` Colin Paul Gloster
2008-07-09 20:35                     ` Richard Maine
2008-07-09 22:49                       ` Terence
2008-07-10  1:07                         ` Gary Scott
2008-07-10 14:10                       ` Colin Paul Gloster
2008-07-10 14:57                         ` fj
2008-07-10 16:47                           ` Richard Maine
2008-07-10 17:03                         ` Dick Hendrickson
2008-07-10 17:26                           ` Craig Powers
2008-07-10 19:55                             ` James Giles
2008-07-10 20:45                               ` Dick Hendrickson
2008-07-10 21:22                                 ` Richard Maine [this message]
2008-07-10 21:29                                   ` Craig Powers
2008-07-10 20:45                               ` Craig Powers
2008-07-10 19:51                           ` James Giles
2008-07-11 15:02                             ` Colin Paul Gloster
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