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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Ada 2005 puzzle
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 09:41:28 +0200
Date: 2012-07-26T09:41:28+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1gt5njrqzprkt$.1f9deqqcwyyuq.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: juq03a$aph$1@munin.nbi.dk

On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:39:20 -0500, in comp.lang.ada you wrote:

> "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote in message 
> news:e3lpckmcck22$.eqnl4sn38ezy$.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 21:23:50 -0700 (PDT), Adam Beneschan wrote:
> ...
>> I repeat it again. It is not about any concrete example. It is about the
>> principle that constructing function would allow writing an aggregate for 
>> a derived type.
> 
> Fine. Then report the *principle* to Ada-Comment, along with some examples 
> where it doesn't work. As I said, we're not spending our time trolling for 
> language bugs -- someone has to report them. And I'm not doing it for other 
> anymore. If you don't care enough to report things to Ada-Comment, then we 
> (the ARG) shouldn't care enough to look at changing them. We've got plenty 
> of hard problems to work on as it is (and I'm sure will get more).

Well, no. Because:

1. You have already answered my question. To paraphrase the answer: limited
objects cannot be constructed using that "junk", it was not intended for
this.

2. I actually want the "junk" removed from the language and consider
anybody's work on extending or implementing it as wasting resources.
Especially because I doubt very much that the goal could be achieved.

As a side note. It would be nice if the next Ada Rationale would have a
chapter, kind of "it is not what you think", warning Ada programmers
against attempts to use the "junk" for the purpose of limited object
factories and suggesting some working patterns instead.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-26  7:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-12 12:54 Ada 2005 puzzle Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-12 15:48 ` Adam Beneschan
2012-07-12 16:34   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-19  6:53     ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-19  7:55       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-20  2:22         ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-20  7:20           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-21  0:04             ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-21  8:34               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-24  2:38                 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-24  4:23                   ` Adam Beneschan
2012-07-24  7:54                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-25 23:39                       ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-26  7:41                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2012-07-26 13:08                           ` Simon Wright
2012-07-26 13:55                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-27  9:42                               ` AdaMagica
2012-07-27 10:32                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-27 11:58                                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-07-27 13:04                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-28  9:48                                       ` AdaMagica
2012-07-28 10:37                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-28 16:59                                           ` AdaMagica
2012-07-28 18:21                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-19  8:04       ` Maciej Sobczak
     [not found]         ` <juaghb$fv9$1@munin.nbi.dk>
2012-07-20  7:30           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-21 17:21             ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-21 19:03               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-21 19:37                 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-21 20:23                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-21 20:53                     ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-22  7:41                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-22  8:00                         ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-22  8:19                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-22  9:06                             ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-22  9:34                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-20  8:09           ` Maciej Sobczak
2012-07-20  8:27             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-20 11:30               ` Maciej Sobczak
2012-07-20 12:49                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-21 22:46                   ` Maciej Sobczak
2012-07-22  8:03                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-22 10:08               ` Florian Weimer
2012-07-22 11:18                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-21  0:12             ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-22  9:52       ` Florian Weimer
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