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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Quick question regarding limited type return syntax
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 14:43:42 +0200
Date: 2014-08-04T14:43:42+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1ge2ly0v5yk8d.j8pd98xg0o8v.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: c491psFkt2bU1@mid.individual.net

On Mon, 04 Aug 2014 12:24:19 +0300, Niklas Holsti wrote:

> Controlled types in Ada provide hooks (Initialize/Finalize/Adjust) that
> can be used as constructors and destructors,

Not really. The problem is that they hook too late to be specific type
constructor and too early for a specific type destructor. This is why you
can dispatch from there. The problem arise when you attempt both: use
Initialize as if it were a specific constructor hook and dispatch from it.

> I don't agree that dispatching on a controlled object should be illegal
> until the Initialize operation on that object has been completed.

Then you cannot call Initialize a constructor's hook. These two are
mutually exclusive. You can dispatch not before all specific descendants
are constructed and T'Class itself.

To make it clearer consider what would be the post-condition of Initialize:

   type T is ...;
   type S is new T ...;

   Initialize (X : in out T)
      ensure
         T'Operational (X)

[*] or, maybe

         S'Operational (X)
         T'Class'Operational (X)
         S'Class'Operational (X)

Now, the precondition of a dispatching call on T'Class is obviously:

   require
      T'Class'Is_Operational (X)

Of course:

   T'Class'Operational (X) => T'Operational (X)
   T'Class'Operational (X) => S'Operational (X)

From this you can formally analyse if initialization is correct.

> I believe that such dispatching may be quite useful in some designs,

Yes it is. This is why there must be a hook at the end of construction of
T'Class. The earliest point you can dispatch if when T'Class'Operational
turns true.

> just as re-dispatching is useful in some designs - IMO.

No. This is a totally different case.

> Moreover, I think this question of constructor/destructor control flow
> is separate from the general question of preventing access to
> uninitialized data.

? Initialization = construction. I don't see how are they different.
-----------------
* T'Operational (X) is true when the object X can operate as an instance of
T.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-08-04 12:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-30 23:51 Quick question regarding limited type return syntax NiGHTS
2014-07-31  0:02 ` Adam Beneschan
2014-07-31  0:56   ` NiGHTS
2014-07-31  0:48 ` Shark8
2014-07-31  1:00   ` NiGHTS
2014-07-31  1:29     ` Adam Beneschan
2014-07-31  1:38       ` NiGHTS
2014-07-31  4:01         ` Shark8
2014-08-01  2:12       ` Randy Brukardt
2014-08-01  3:40         ` Shark8
2014-08-01  7:57         ` J-P. Rosen
2014-08-01 19:23           ` Randy Brukardt
2014-08-01 19:37             ` J-P. Rosen
2014-08-01 20:53             ` Shark8
2014-08-02  7:11               ` Niklas Holsti
2014-08-02  7:34                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-02 13:20                   ` Robert A Duff
2014-08-02 13:44                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-02 14:34                       ` Robert A Duff
2014-08-02 16:56                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-02 20:35                           ` Niklas Holsti
2014-08-03  7:30                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-04  9:24                               ` Niklas Holsti
2014-08-04 10:42                                 ` G.B.
2014-08-04 11:39                                   ` Peter Chapin
2014-08-04 17:49                                     ` Niklas Holsti
2014-08-04 11:36                                 ` Peter Chapin
2014-08-04 12:43                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2014-08-04 16:19                                   ` G.B.
2014-08-04 16:38                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-04 16:51                                       ` G.B.
2014-08-04 17:23                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-04 19:37                                   ` Niklas Holsti
2014-08-05  8:30                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-05 19:24                                       ` Randy Brukardt
2014-08-03 16:35                           ` Robert A Duff
2014-08-02  8:02               ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2014-08-02 19:20                 ` Shark8
2014-08-03 16:07                   ` Default values (Was: Quick question regarding limited type return syntax) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2014-08-04 21:29                     ` Randy Brukardt
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