From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Ada design bug or GNAT bug?
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 16:38:50 +0200
Date: 2015-06-23T16:38:50+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1f6dpcxmxly1a$.zfhetu1wgtix$.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
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On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 06:06:13 -0700 (PDT), vincent.diemunsch@gmail.com
wrote:
> I regard the refusal to create a "class type", like Ichbiah wanted it,
> just like we have a protected type and a task type, as the root of evil.
Ada's was is the only consistent way.
> For the OOP concept is based on an interface that is the same and
> instances that are different realizations of the same concept.
This is an inconsistent concept if taken literally. OOP never talk about
types being same. It does about same *behavior*. This is miles over miles
different. T and T'Class behave as if they were same in some contexts, but
they are not same from any point of view. Remember that class is a set of
types. A set is never equal to its instances. T'Class is a closure of
class. Closure of a set is not equal to an element of the set.
> One may think that the distinction between class type and tagged type is
> subtle, but the implications of it are huge : without class object one
> needs as replacement access to a class wide type.
Why?
(Access types appeared for having the Rosen's trick and working around
missing proper constructors and destructors.)
--
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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2015-06-20 18:55 Ada design bug or GNAT bug? Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-06-21 2:42 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-06-21 6:47 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-06-22 17:39 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-06-22 18:16 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-06-23 11:00 ` G.B.
2015-06-23 14:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-06-23 11:45 ` G.B.
2015-06-23 14:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-02 22:22 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-03 8:02 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-03 17:33 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-03 21:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-04 3:11 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-04 12:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-05 0:53 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-06-22 18:27 ` Shark8
2015-06-23 11:51 ` vincent.diemunsch
2015-06-23 19:55 ` Shark8
2015-06-23 13:06 ` vincent.diemunsch
2015-06-23 14:30 ` David Botton
2015-06-23 15:57 ` Niklas Holsti
2015-06-23 16:01 ` G.B.
2015-06-23 18:05 ` David Botton
2015-06-23 19:38 ` David Botton
2015-06-23 14:38 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2015-06-23 16:57 ` Vincent
2015-06-23 17:15 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-06-23 19:14 ` vincent.diemunsch
2015-06-23 19:33 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-06-23 17:42 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-02 22:06 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-04 1:52 ` Shark8
2015-07-04 3:24 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-04 11:02 ` Build-in-place semantics? (Was: Ada design bug or GNAT bug?) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2015-07-04 12:15 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-05 0:45 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-05 7:10 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-05 0:40 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-04 14:05 ` Ada design bug or GNAT bug? Bob Duff
2015-07-04 7:46 ` Simon Wright
2015-07-04 12:00 ` Björn Lundin
2015-07-05 0:48 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-06 12:37 ` Vincent
2015-07-06 20:05 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-07 8:06 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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