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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Functions vs constants
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 16:18:07 +0200
Date: 2014-07-26T16:18:07+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1f13pach2ztzz$.1hwsycfby3ssx.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: AyOAv.81710$YC3.68901@fx04.iad

On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 08:03:12 -0600, Shark8 wrote:

> On 26-Jul-14 02:02, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>> The mess is to think one could design types as hierarchies.
> 
> Ridiculous; it's obvious that some types really do belong in a 
> hierarchy. (Granted, not the *same* hierarchy with "one root to rule 
> them all, and in the darkness bind them".) -- e.g. there really should 
> be a common ["generic"] root, an "abstract type" if you will, for 
> strings which conceptually are "instantiated" with the different 
> versions of Character (ie [[Wide_]Wide_]Character) but present to the 
> programmer a single, unified interface.

The point is that nobody can foresee *all* hierarchies a type participates
or may participate. These relationships are *not* global. The example was
given: the hierarchy Printable.

Type relationships are not objective for many reasons, the most important
is that it is a model of problem spaces and thus is never adequate. The
language type system should allow you adjust things instead of breaking
them.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de


  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-26 14:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-21 21:18 Functions vs constants Victor Porton
2014-07-21 21:28 ` Victor Porton
2014-07-21 21:49   ` Shark8
2014-07-21 21:52     ` Victor Porton
2014-07-21 21:59       ` Adam Beneschan
2014-07-21 21:35 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-07-21 21:41   ` Victor Porton
2014-07-21 23:23   ` Randy Brukardt
2014-07-22  7:42     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-07-22 22:07       ` Randy Brukardt
2014-07-23  7:55         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-07-23 21:44           ` Randy Brukardt
2014-07-23 12:37         ` G.B.
2014-07-23 22:12           ` Randy Brukardt
2014-07-24  7:20             ` Stefan.Lucks
2014-07-25  4:43               ` Randy Brukardt
2014-07-26  2:36                 ` Shark8
2014-07-24  8:27             ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-07-24 10:11               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-07-24 10:49                 ` G.B.
2014-07-24 12:50                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-07-25  4:56               ` Randy Brukardt
2014-07-25  6:45                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-07-25 10:46                   ` G.B.
2014-07-25 19:31                   ` Randy Brukardt
2014-07-25 20:02                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-07-26  2:45                       ` Shark8
2014-07-26  8:02                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-07-26 14:03                           ` Shark8
2014-07-26 14:18                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2014-07-21 21:55 ` Victor Porton
2014-07-22  7:06 ` Maciej Sobczak
2014-07-22  7:50   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-07-22 22:14     ` Randy Brukardt
2014-07-23 13:21       ` Stephen Leake
2014-07-23 13:27         ` Victor Porton
2014-07-23 15:10         ` Adam Beneschan
2014-07-23 21:57 ` Robert A Duff
2014-07-24 12:25   ` Victor Porton
2014-07-24 15:53     ` Robert A Duff
2014-07-24 15:57       ` Victor Porton
2014-07-24 16:47   ` Pascal Obry
2014-07-24 12:26 ` anon
2014-07-24 12:52 ` Victor Porton
2014-07-24 16:01   ` Robert A Duff
2014-07-24 16:15     ` Adam Beneschan
2014-07-25  5:05     ` Randy Brukardt
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