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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: New Ada portable GUI Library?
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:47:52 +0100
Date: 2008-01-16T09:38:50+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1dnppjxocx3v0$.1dfb61hacgk92.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: sa4bq7mfbok.fsf@snoopy.microcomaustralia.com.au

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:54:03 +1100, Brian May wrote:

>>>>>> "Martin" == Martin Krischik <krischik@users.sourceforge.net> writes:
> 
>     Martin> There is just one problem here: Both Gtk+ and QT are OO libraries which
>     Martin> are not all that compatible with the Ada's OO way of live and this in
>     Martin> turn mean that layer (2) and (3) might not be as tiny as we hope for.
> 
> I am curious - in what why are they not compatible?

In Gtk+ there is a notion of class (of widgets for example). The class has
properties and signals. An instance of that class inherits them from the
class. So far so good. But this types system of Gtk+ is dynamic and weakly
typed. (You can send any parameters you want)

The incompatibility is firstly dynamic/weak Gtk+ with static/strong Ada
and, secondly, it has an implementation of its own. Less important, but
also incompatible: the messaging in Gtk+ is asynchronous in its interface
while synchronous in implementation. (The worst possible combination, BTW)
In Ada's OO messaging is all synchronous, concurrency is outside Ada's OO
model.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-16  8:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-12 13:37 New Ada portable GUI Library? Tomek Walkuski
2008-01-12 15:19 ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-12 18:12   ` Lucretia
2008-01-12 20:40     ` Tomek Walkuski
2008-01-12 23:01       ` Lucretia
2008-01-13  5:17         ` Vadim Godunko
2008-01-13  9:07           ` Lucretia
2008-01-13 10:49             ` Vadim Godunko
2008-01-16  9:45               ` I. Levashew
2008-01-13  8:13         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-13  9:11           ` Lucretia
2008-01-13 10:06             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-13 10:25               ` Tomek Walkuski
2008-01-13 12:36                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-13 19:58                   ` Michael Bode
2008-01-13 21:00                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-13 21:53                       ` Michael Bode
2008-01-14  9:11                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-13 23:08                     ` Gary Scott
2008-01-13 23:31                       ` Michael Bode
2008-01-13 23:50                         ` Gary Scott
2008-01-14 19:12                           ` Michael Bode
2008-01-13 11:27               ` Lucretia
2008-01-13 11:29               ` Lucretia
2008-01-15  7:34               ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-15  8:38                 ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-01-15  8:54                   ` Martin Krischik
2008-02-11 22:10               ` Martin
2008-02-12 18:35                 ` Martin Krischik
2008-02-12 21:43                   ` Tomek Walkuski
2008-01-13 11:14           ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-13 11:31             ` Lucretia
2008-01-14 17:58             ` Ben
2008-01-14 18:21               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-14 20:47                 ` Gautier
2008-01-14 21:32                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-13 13:28         ` Stephen Leake
2008-01-13 14:14           ` Pascal Obry
2008-01-13 14:22             ` Pascal Obry
2008-01-15  7:54               ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-16  7:54                 ` Brian May
2008-01-16  8:47                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2008-01-16  8:52                   ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-16 18:26                     ` tmoran
2008-01-13 22:22           ` Lucretia
2008-01-14 10:07             ` Stephen Leake
2008-01-12 18:36 ` (slightly OT) Open Source licences? (was: Re: New Ada portable GUI Library?) framefritti
2008-01-12 18:57   ` Maciej Sobczak
2008-01-12 19:27   ` Tomek Walkuski
2008-01-12 19:39   ` (slightly OT) Open Source licences? Gautier
2008-01-12 20:26   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-12 21:58   ` Robert A Duff
2008-01-13  0:04   ` (slightly OT) Open Source licences? (was: Re: New Ada portable GUI Library?) Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-12 22:37 ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-13 11:04 ` New Ada portable GUI Library? Gautier
2008-01-15  7:56   ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-15 17:41     ` Gautier
2008-01-16  8:16     ` tmoran
2008-01-16  8:56       ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-16 19:34       ` Gautier
2008-01-16 22:51         ` Randy Brukardt
2008-01-17 20:32           ` Gautier
2008-01-18  1:41             ` Robert A Duff
2008-01-18 17:53               ` tmoran
2008-01-18 18:59                 ` Robert A Duff
2008-01-18 19:28                   ` Pascal Obry
2008-01-20 22:38                     ` Robert A Duff
2008-01-20  1:38                 ` Jerrid Kimball
2008-01-20 12:30                   ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-01-20 13:40                   ` Stephen Leake
2008-01-20 14:36                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-15  8:17 ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-15  9:14   ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-01-15 10:39     ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-15 14:01       ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-01-15 16:05         ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-15 17:31           ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-01-16  8:28             ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-17  2:21   ` I. Levashew
2008-01-17  7:34     ` OpenStep/GNUStep/Cocoa (Was: New Ada portable GUI Library?) Martin Krischik
2008-01-17  9:06       ` Ivan Levashew
2008-01-17 10:25         ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-18  3:28           ` Ivan Levashew
2008-01-18  7:24             ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-15 21:51 ` New Ada portable GUI Library? Phaedrus
2008-01-16  0:04   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2008-01-16  0:20     ` Phaedrus
2008-01-16  1:09       ` Randy Brukardt
2008-01-16  1:47         ` Phaedrus
2008-01-20 14:07 ` Andre
2008-01-21 23:14 ` Frederik Sausmikat
2008-01-27 11:26   ` Lucretia
2008-01-27 16:47     ` Gary Scott
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