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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Decline?
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:02:53 +0100
Date: 2008-03-12T19:02:53+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1damvl7guwzsk$.83gvpkinmjhi.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 6401244f-3062-4f4a-8f19-4e71b6b1ff11@n75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:00:36 -0700 (PDT), gpriv@axonx.com wrote:

> On Mar 12, 9:44 am, Thomas <tho...@kenshi.dk> wrote:

>> Today I stumbled on this fairly old (2003) paper on the merits (or lack
>> of!) of Ada.
>>
>> http://www.sei.cmu.edu/pub/documents/03.reports/pdf/03tn021.pdf
>>
>> As I'm a complete beginner in Ada, I have no way of knowing if this
>> paper is spot on, or way off.
>>
>> It doesn't really matter very much to me, as I'm just learnig Ada for
>> fun (and so far I'm having lots of fun!), but should I ever decide to
>> use it for any "real" projects, it's of course worth considering if the
>> author, Jim Smith, is right in his bleak conclusion:
>>
>> -----
>> Program managers considering the technical and programmatic risks of
>> incorporating specific programming languages in software-intensive
>> systems could reasonably -conclude that Ada is a programming language
>> with a dubious or nonexistent future.
>> -----

I doubt that they consider anything is a rational way...  I cannot remember
a case when language choice was a subject of a serious (rational)
consideration.

>> Sounds awfully dark and gloomy eh?

Yep, it has been sounded that way since 90s, almost 20 years, how
distressing... (:-))

>> So, what's your take on this? Is Ada still an important player? Did Ada
>> 2005 change anything?

I don't think so. Ada 2005 brought mainly cosmetic changes, and the
language technical merits is not an issue anyway.

>> Is all well and good in the Ada world, and Jim
>> Smith is simply blowing smoke out of his blowhole?

It is difficult to say. IMO Ada world is too fragmented.

> If popularity is the major criteria to choose the language we all
> should use VB.

Popularity is a measure of the language choices already made.

...
 I guess that the subject of an economical/sociological analysis is not
language recommendation, but merely a description of what's going on. These
are different things. Ada could be a better choice, but VB is chosen.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-03-12 18:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-12 13:44 Decline? Thomas
2008-03-12 15:00 ` Decline? gpriv
2008-03-12 15:23   ` Decline? Ludovic Brenta
2008-03-12 15:25   ` Decline? Thomas
2008-03-13  0:42     ` Decline? Ludovic Brenta
2008-03-13  6:34       ` Decline? Thomas
2008-03-13 10:08         ` Decline? VilleWitt
2008-03-13 10:28           ` Upsurge? (was: Decline?) Ludovic Brenta
2008-03-13 12:04             ` Upsurge? Thomas
2008-03-13 12:13               ` Upsurge? Alex R. Mosteo
2008-03-14 14:45               ` Upsurge? Ludovic Brenta
2008-03-14 15:26                 ` Upsurge? Thomas
2008-03-15 11:41                   ` Ada i Danmark (Was: Upsurge?) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2008-03-15 16:22                     ` Thomas
2008-03-15 21:19                       ` Ada i Danmark Jacob Sparre Andersen
2008-03-17 12:09                   ` Upsurge? Poul-Erik Andreasen
2008-03-17 14:58                     ` Upsurge? Thomas
2008-03-17 14:35                 ` Ada UK, was: Upsurge? Simon Clubley
2008-03-18 11:29                   ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-03-18 12:11                     ` Dirk Craeynest
2008-03-15  7:39               ` Upsurge? Stephen Leake
2008-03-20  5:51               ` Upsurge? DScott
2008-03-20  8:21                 ` Upsurge? Thomas
2008-03-20 20:06                   ` Upsurge? DScott
2008-03-21  9:44                     ` Upsurge? Thomas
2008-03-13 18:00       ` Decline? Gene
2008-03-13 19:50         ` Decline? Georg Bauhaus
2008-03-14 16:29           ` Decline? Eric Hughes
2008-03-14  1:46       ` Decline? Randy Brukardt
2008-03-14  7:57         ` Decline? Stefan.Lucks
2008-03-14  9:30           ` Textbooks (Was: Decline?) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2008-03-14 11:39             ` Peter C. Chapin
2008-03-14 13:56               ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-03-15 23:38               ` adaworks
2008-03-16  0:25                 ` Peter C. Chapin
2008-03-16  7:38                 ` Textbooks Jacob Sparre Andersen
2008-03-16 19:51                   ` Textbooks adaworks
2008-03-17 13:16                   ` Textbooks John McCormick
2008-03-22 16:11             ` Textbooks (Was: Decline?) stefan-lucks
2008-03-12 18:02   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2008-03-12 19:24 ` Decline? Jeffrey R. Carter
2008-03-13  9:01 ` Decline? Jerry
2008-03-15 23:18 ` Decline? adaworks
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