From: Shark8 <onewingedshark@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: asynchronous task communication
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 12:18:48 -0800 (PST)
Date: 2012-12-31T12:18:48-08:00 [thread overview]
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On Monday, December 31, 2012 12:52:22 PM UTC-6, Charles Hixson wrote:
> Thank you for your answer.
>
> The problem with that solution is that I've been advised that I
> shouldn't have many more tasks than available cores, and that uses 2 of
> my available 6. True, several clients could use the same postmaster,
> but it's still too resource intensive.
I'm rather dubious of this advice -- without any reasoning it reeks of the "premature optimization" problem.
Besides, unless you're making it for a specific [homogenized] computer platform (I.E. the PlayStation 2) there's no guarantee that the user will have the same set-up... further, it restricts you to your particular computer. (I recently got a new computer, which has a different number of cores than my old one... I would not like to be compelled to recompile my programs because of such a minor difference.)
> It's looking more and more like protected objects on the heap are the
> best answer. I just wasn't sure that a built-in answer didn't exist.
Protected objects are pretty nice, so are the Containers (w/ the generalized for-loop). But if it's something that logically maps well to TASK, there's no reason to avoid TASK -- that is, conform your code to the problem, not to the details of the executing computer.
> OTOH, actual non-blocking (i.e. asynchronous) calls to either threads or
> protected items is what I really need.
Ada can do it; I don't have my books available, but I believe asynchronous select is covered in both:
http://www.amazon.com/Building-Parallel-Embedded-Real-Time-Applications/dp/0521197163/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1356984746&sr=8-2&keywords=Ada+Parallel+programming
and
http://www.amazon.com/Concurrent-Real-Time-Programming-Ada-ebook/dp/B001GS6TBO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1356984746&sr=8-3&keywords=Ada+Parallel+programming
Or just go to the RM:
http://www.ada-auth.org/standards/12aarm/html/AA-9-7-4.html
> These other things are make-shift kludges. They centralize control that should be distributed.
Hm, then should you be looking at the DSA? -- Or is that a different 'distributed' than you are talking about?
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Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-12-31 0:16 asynchronous task communication Charles Hixson
2012-12-31 9:04 ` Simon Wright
2012-12-31 11:49 ` Simon Wright
2012-12-31 10:50 ` J-P. Rosen
2012-12-31 12:09 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-12-31 18:52 ` Charles Hixson
2012-12-31 20:18 ` Shark8 [this message]
2012-12-31 21:09 ` Niklas Holsti
2012-12-31 22:15 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-01-01 3:58 ` Charles Hixson
2013-01-01 4:48 ` tmoran
2013-01-01 17:59 ` Charles Hixson
2013-01-01 3:51 ` Charles Hixson
2013-01-01 9:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-01-01 10:38 ` Brian Drummond
2013-01-01 12:32 ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-01-01 18:21 ` Charles Hixson
2013-01-01 18:54 ` Robert A Duff
2013-01-02 7:36 ` Charles Hixson
2013-01-02 9:55 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-01-02 19:02 ` Charles Hixson
2013-01-02 20:35 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-01-03 0:20 ` Charles Hixson
2013-01-03 6:34 ` Charles Hixson
2013-01-03 8:50 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-01-03 19:01 ` Charles Hixson
2013-01-03 10:01 ` J-P. Rosen
2013-01-03 19:29 ` Charles Hixson
2013-01-04 8:17 ` J-P. Rosen
2013-01-05 4:31 ` Charles Hixson
2013-01-09 8:34 ` Stephen Leake
2013-01-03 22:27 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-01-05 5:18 ` Charles Hixson
2013-01-05 8:48 ` Niklas Holsti
2013-01-06 22:55 ` Charles Hixson
2013-01-07 0:38 ` tmoran
2013-01-07 6:07 ` Shark8
2013-01-07 10:49 ` Brian Drummond
2013-01-07 18:27 ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-01-08 12:02 ` Brian Drummond
2013-01-08 17:12 ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-01-08 18:18 ` Simon Wright
2013-01-08 20:29 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-01-08 21:01 ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-01-08 21:14 ` Simon Wright
2013-01-08 22:11 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-01-08 22:52 ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-01-08 22:26 ` Brian Drummond
2013-01-08 2:41 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-01-02 22:43 ` Niklas Holsti
2013-01-03 1:30 ` Charles Hixson
2013-01-03 12:11 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-01-03 13:17 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-01-05 20:19 ` Charles Hixson
2013-01-07 4:01 ` Shark8
2013-01-01 19:59 ` J-P. Rosen
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