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From: Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu>
Subject: Re: Simulating the rolling of dices to produce truly random numbers?
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 10:38:10 -0700
Date: 2018-01-10T10:38:10-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1bo9m1lim5.fsf@pfeifferfamily.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: p35i4q$5o5$1@toylet.eternal-september.org

"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> writes:

> On 11/1/2018 01:20, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>> There are a zillion ways to generate truly random numbers, all based on
>> somehow reading a suitably random input -- no need to simulate dice.
>>
>> To use a simulation of dice to get random numbers, you'd need to have a
>> source of random numbers available to you, to perturb the the behavior
>> of the dice.  So you'd be using a (relatively) much more efficient
>> source of randomness to drive a really inefficient source.
>
> Are you saying that dices are NOT random enough?
>
> (I remember Mr. Einstein's statement: "God does not play dice" :)

Dice are plenty random enough -- you're talking about simulating them.
A *simulation* of dice won't be random enough unless you put randomness
into it.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-01-10 17:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-10 15:50 Simulating the rolling of dices to produce truly random numbers? Mr. Man-wai Chang
2018-01-10 16:52 ` Robert Wessel
2018-01-10 16:55   ` Mr. Man-wai Chang
2018-01-10 16:59     ` Robert Wessel
2018-01-10 17:00       ` Mr. Man-wai Chang
2018-01-10 17:16         ` Robert Wessel
2018-01-10 16:55   ` Robert Wessel
2018-01-10 16:58     ` Mr. Man-wai Chang
2018-01-10 21:07       ` David Brown
2018-01-10 17:20 ` Joe Pfeiffer
2018-01-10 17:22   ` Mr. Man-wai Chang
2018-01-10 17:32     ` Robert Wessel
2018-01-10 18:15       ` Richard Heathfield
2018-01-10 19:09         ` Robert Wessel
2018-01-10 17:38     ` Joe Pfeiffer [this message]
2018-01-10 17:48       ` Mr. Man-wai Chang
2018-01-10 18:43         ` Joe Pfeiffer
2018-01-10 18:20   ` Scott Lurndal
2018-01-10 18:23     ` Lew Pitcher
2018-01-10 20:29 ` Chris M. Thomasson
2018-01-10 22:54 ` Mace Ayres
2018-01-11  1:31   ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2018-01-11 12:45   ` AdaMagica
2018-01-11 14:40     ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2018-01-12  2:32     ` Mace Ayres
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