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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Point a beginner in the right direction? Cheap bare-board to run with a RTOS for running ADA
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 14:57:22 +0200
Date: 2013-07-09T14:57:22+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1bj6kquk0z8ak$.oyr1yls3ny3e.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: krgtjj$hpk$1@dont-email.me

On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 11:53:23 +0000 (UTC), Simon Clubley wrote:

> On 2013-07-08, Dmitry A. Kazakov <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote:
>> On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 17:23:06 +0000 (UTC), Simon Clubley wrote:

>>> Besides, that's only viable when you can use RTEMS instead of running on
>>> the bare metal.
>>
>> You said customers need no OS. Why do you expect anybody would do something
>> you consider not viable?
> 
> You have completely misunderstood. RTEMS comes into this because of it's
> existing support for Ada and the ability of RTEMS to run on a number of
> platforms.

I don't understand your point. RTEMS is an OS.
 
>>> Even when you use RTEMS, the end user still has to supply
>>> a BSP if their board is not already supported.
>>
>> You said it would be simple. You want customers writing a BSP for YOUR
>> board?
> 
> Huh? Where did I say anything about creating a specific board and selling
> that ?

Not you, nor the customer. Who then?

> What is needed is to create a Ada compiler which will run in bare metal
> mode on a number of specific architectures (ARM and MIPS would be my
> personal initial preferences).

A compiler cannot run on bare metal. You need a GCC cross compiler to be
able to do something like

   gcc -c -march=armv7 foo.adb

on the host machine.

> People can then use the compiler to write
> code which runs on their specific board of interest.

I don't think that would be very difficult, but, as I said in this
discussion already, I would be quite useless unless you say what of the RTL
goes over the board and what stays.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-09 12:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-19  7:51 Point a beginner in the right direction? Cheap bare-board to run with a RTOS for running ADA Marcus F
2013-06-19 18:20 ` Point a beginner in the right direction? Cheap bare-board to run with a RTOS for running Ada Jacob Sparre Andersen
2013-06-19 18:59   ` Marcus F
2013-06-19 19:25     ` Marcus F
2013-07-12 20:35     ` Rego, P.
2013-07-12 20:37       ` Rego, P.
2013-07-07  9:16 ` Point a beginner in the right direction? Cheap bare-board to run with a RTOS for running ADA Lucretia
2013-07-07  9:56   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-07 10:58     ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-07 15:00       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-07 16:27         ` Niklas Holsti
2013-07-08  7:43           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-08 10:54             ` G.B.
2013-07-08 12:14               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-08 12:56                 ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-08 14:06                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-08 14:43                     ` G.B.
2013-07-08 17:23                     ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-08 18:55                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 11:53                         ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-09 12:57                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2013-07-09 13:11                             ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-09 20:30                               ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-09 22:23                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-10  8:06                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-10 12:25                                 ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-10 22:17                                   ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-11 16:58                                     ` Eryndlia Mavourneen
2013-07-11 22:07                                       ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-08 13:15                 ` G.B.
2013-07-08 13:59                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09  0:53                     ` mjsilva
2013-07-08 20:31             ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-08 20:45               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09  0:19                 ` mjsilva
2013-07-09  0:27             ` mjsilva
2013-07-09  7:51               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09  8:33                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-09  9:12                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 11:08                     ` G.B.
2013-07-09 12:28                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 14:20                         ` G.B.
2013-07-09 15:00                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 23:13                             ` Peter C. Chapin
2013-07-09 15:38                 ` mjsilva
2013-07-09 19:48                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 20:10                   ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-09 22:09                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-10 22:21                       ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-11  6:12                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-11 22:00                           ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-10  1:31                     ` mjsilva
2013-07-10  8:17                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-10 22:39                       ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-09 13:53     ` Shmuel Metz
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