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From: Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu>
Subject: Re: KISS4691, a potentially top-ranked RNG.
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 10:51:49 -0600
Date: 2011-06-28T10:51:49-06:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1baad16gre.fsf@snowball.wb.pfeifferfamily.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: lANXICIpMgCOFAmv@phaedsys.demon.co.uk

Chris H <chris@phaedsys.org> writes:

> In message <1bei2e54d4.fsf@snowball.wb.pfeifferfamily.net>, Joe Pfeiffer
> <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> writes
>>"robin" <robin51@dodo.mapson.com.au> writes:
>>
>>> "Georg Bauhaus" <rm.dash-bauhaus@futureapps.de> wrote in message
>>> news:4dda09ca$0$6629$9b4e6d93@newsspool2.arcor-online.net...
>>> |
>>> | According to Wikipedia, counting all CPUs sold, even the share
>>> | of 8bit 0 >> | the numbers.)
>>>
>>> Wikipedia is not a reliable source.
>>
>>It's as reliable as any encyclopedia.
>
> That is the problem we face... stupidity like that.
>
> Wiki is very far from being as reliable as any other encyclopaedia.
>
> I know some one who has a written a page entry for the Encyclopaedia
> Britanica.   He is a world expert in the subject which is why he was
> asked to do it.  When he finished the item it was peer reviewed by other
> world class experts.  It is like that for al their entries. The same
> with most other encyclopaedias. They take a lot of care.
>
> That sort of level of care does not go into wiki pages. Anyone can write
> anything on any page. There was an experiment done 3-4 years ago to see
> if was possible to get ridiculous changes past the page editors.  IT was
> so successful that after owning up some of the changes were not reversed
> until the experimenters re-edited the pages themselves.
>
> SO apart from the usual mistakes, and the authors being anything but
> experts, there are those with differing views counter editing and of
> course malicious editing.  You don't get these problems in  other
> encyclopaedias.
>
> In short due the openness of the wiki it is far less reliable than any
> other encyclopaedia. Because no one is responsible in any meaningful way
> for what is on wikipeadia.

The only study I've seen showed an error rate for wikipedia roughly 30%
higher (per article) than britannica, while a follow-on pointed out that
the articles themselves were 2.6 times longer.

Yes, it's possible to deliberately "game" wikipedia in order to prove a
point, and politicians and others who have an interest in the content of
articles vandalize them.  The number of 8-bit processors doesn't come
into these categories, and besides (as has been pointed out by others)
the wikipedia article cites sources.

So, rather than blanket statements regarding the unreliability of wikis,
or anecdotes regarding your friend the expert, are you claiming the
wikipedia author mis-quoted the statistics?  Or do you have a "more
reliable" source that says says something different?



  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-28 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2011-04-28  1:14 ` KISS4691, a potentially top-ranked RNG robin
2011-04-28 11:42   ` e p chandler
2011-04-29  1:50     ` David Bernier
2011-04-29  2:09       ` Ian Collins
2011-04-29  3:01         ` Eric Sosman
2011-04-29  3:09           ` Ian Collins
2011-05-08  7:34             ` Uno
2011-05-11  5:38               ` Marni Zollinger
2011-04-29  6:15           ` nmm1
2011-04-29  3:16         ` David Bernier
2011-04-29  2:34       ` glen herrmannsfeldt
2011-04-29  7:04         ` Uno
2011-04-30 10:48           ` robin
2011-05-05  1:12             ` Uno
2011-04-29 15:13         ` Keith Thompson
2011-04-29 17:41           ` glen herrmannsfeldt
2011-04-29 19:53             ` Keith Thompson
2011-05-05 23:38               ` Michael Press
2011-04-29 22:45           ` Seebs
2011-04-30  4:36           ` Randy Brukardt
2011-04-29 22:43       ` Seebs
2011-04-29  9:43     ` robin
2011-05-01 15:31   ` Thad Smith
2011-05-01 19:58     ` Ian Collins
2011-05-02  0:01       ` James Kuyper
2011-05-02  0:42         ` Ian Collins
2011-05-02  2:34           ` James Kuyper
2011-05-02  2:50           ` glen herrmannsfeldt
2011-05-02  4:21       ` Thad Smith
2011-05-02  7:31         ` nmm1
2011-05-23  4:18           ` robin
2011-05-23  7:20             ` robin
2011-05-23  6:52           ` robin
2011-05-23  6:52           ` robin
2011-05-23  6:52           ` robin
2011-05-23  6:53           ` robin
2011-05-23  7:16             ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-06-28  7:19               ` robin
2011-06-28  8:44                 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-06-28  9:19                   ` Chris H
2011-06-28  9:14                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-06-28 11:59                   ` robin
2011-06-28 12:16                     ` Chris H
2011-06-28 15:44                       ` Peter Flass
2011-06-28 12:33                     ` James Kuyper
2011-06-28 13:53                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-06-28 22:39                       ` Brian Salter-Duke
2011-06-28 12:32                 ` James Kuyper
2011-06-28 13:03                   ` Chris H
2011-06-28 14:25                     ` James Kuyper
2011-06-28 15:01                       ` Chris H
2011-06-29  0:20                         ` James Kuyper
2011-06-29  8:38                         ` Michael Press
2011-06-28 16:04                 ` Joe Pfeiffer
2011-06-28 16:36                   ` Chris H
2011-06-28 16:51                     ` Joe Pfeiffer [this message]
2011-06-29  0:27                       ` James Kuyper
2011-06-29  1:00                         ` Joe Pfeiffer
2011-06-29 16:48                         ` Phil Carmody
2011-06-28 16:52                     ` Joe Pfeiffer
2011-06-28 17:06                     ` David Bernier
2011-06-28 21:11                     ` Gib Bogle
2011-06-29  4:47                       ` Mart van de Wege
2011-07-02  6:49                         ` Gib Bogle
2011-07-02 15:59                           ` Mart van de Wege
2011-07-02 21:57                             ` Gib Bogle
2011-06-29  7:36                       ` nmm1
2011-06-29  9:58                         ` Georg Bauhaus
     [not found] <a82cebe3-cdb9-48af-8080-bca935eeb9b1@l14g2000yql.googlegroups.com>
2010-07-25  0:49 ` Gene
2010-07-26  2:50   ` robin
2010-07-27  5:46 ` robin
2010-07-30 10:46   ` Uno
2010-08-03 10:41     ` robin
2010-08-03 17:15       ` James Waldby
2010-08-03 17:35         ` Dann Corbit
2010-08-03 20:34           ` Peter Flass
2010-08-04  4:20             ` Uno
2010-08-04  8:31           ` robin
2010-08-04  7:56         ` robin
2010-08-05 21:07           ` Uno
2010-08-06 10:11             ` robin
2010-08-09 14:52             ` mecej4
     [not found] ` <i2fir2$op4$1@speranza.aioe.org>
2010-07-27 10:19   ` robin
2010-07-30  8:33     ` Uno
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