From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Why no socket package in the standard ?
Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 11:06:26 +0200
Date: 2011-05-25T11:06:26+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1b1jorug3upqh$.17igny3efwznu.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4ddc3abd$0$6542$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net
On Wed, 25 May 2011 01:09:49 +0200, Georg Bauhaus wrote:
> A CAN is real, it is wide spread, it is not that new, and
> has money associated with it.
Yes, but
1. CAN is dying, to be superseded by EtherCAT, XCP etc.
2. CAN requires special adaptors (vendors are IXXAT, Vector, NI), which
have no standardized interface. You need to standardize that interface
first, i.e. do the job sockets did for Ethernet adapters.
3. Raw CAN is only 20% or so. Most vendors use CAN Open on its top. CAN
Open is an utter mess.
4. Raw CAN is useless at the application level, because it has only 8 bytes
of data (if you don't mess with IDs, which would give another 11 bits).
--
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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2011-05-24 1:22 Why no socket package in the standard ? Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 1:39 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 6:11 ` tmoran
2011-05-24 17:23 ` Pascal Obry
2011-05-24 19:10 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-25 15:12 ` Tero Koskinen
2011-05-25 18:43 ` Tero Koskinen
2011-05-25 19:08 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 6:24 ` georg bauhaus
2011-05-24 7:07 ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-05-24 7:19 ` Thomas Løcke
2011-05-24 7:35 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-24 10:00 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-24 12:53 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-24 14:28 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-24 14:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-24 16:07 ` Adam Beneschan
2011-05-24 19:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-25 0:53 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-25 0:21 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-25 11:25 ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-05-24 16:10 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-24 19:36 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-25 0:57 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 23:20 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-25 0:32 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-25 0:49 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-25 7:55 ` Pascal Obry
2011-05-25 8:38 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-25 8:05 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-25 7:52 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-24 19:38 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 19:54 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-24 20:10 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 21:57 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-24 22:35 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 23:34 ` Adam Beneschan
2011-05-24 23:40 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-24 23:50 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 23:35 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-25 3:07 ` Shark8
2011-05-25 4:01 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-25 7:39 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-25 7:42 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-25 10:46 ` Manuel Collado
2011-05-25 10:44 ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-05-25 15:28 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-25 16:36 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-25 16:46 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-26 12:10 ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-05-26 12:42 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-26 14:36 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-26 15:56 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-26 18:20 ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-05-26 18:29 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-26 20:46 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-26 21:02 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-26 21:44 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-26 21:59 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-27 7:54 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-27 13:12 ` Simon Wright
2011-05-27 15:43 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-26 18:31 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-05-26 19:05 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-26 19:14 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-26 19:44 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-27 2:02 ` anon
2011-05-27 11:44 ` Stephen Leake
2011-05-26 14:50 ` Adam Beneschan
2011-05-26 15:57 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-27 11:46 ` Stephen Leake
2011-05-27 12:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-27 12:49 ` Make, Automake, Configure, Autocong, GPRbuild etc (was: Why no socket package in the standard ?) Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-27 13:10 ` Make, Automake, Configure, Autocong, GPRbuild etc Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-27 15:45 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-25 7:40 ` Why no socket package in the standard ? Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-25 10:48 ` Pascal Obry
2011-05-25 7:49 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-25 2:47 ` Shark8
2011-05-25 9:12 ` Thomas Løcke
2011-05-24 21:42 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 23:09 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-24 23:25 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-25 9:06 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2011-05-24 23:11 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-24 23:28 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 23:57 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-25 0:36 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 7:25 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-24 21:22 ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-05-25 9:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-25 11:54 ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-05-25 12:26 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-24 22:04 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-25 9:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-24 19:17 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 19:30 ` J-P. Rosen
2011-05-24 19:49 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 22:39 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-24 22:54 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 23:54 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-25 0:34 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-25 1:20 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 12:38 ` AdaMagica
2011-05-24 15:00 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 18:29 ` anon
2011-05-24 19:08 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-06-02 2:41 ` Randy Brukardt
2011-06-02 13:55 ` Florian Weimer
2011-06-02 20:38 ` anon
2011-06-02 20:44 ` Florian Weimer
2011-06-02 21:18 ` J-P. Rosen
2011-06-04 21:35 ` anon
2011-06-05 8:39 ` J-P. Rosen
2011-06-07 1:50 ` anon
2011-06-02 21:34 ` Randy Brukardt
2011-06-05 11:06 ` Florian Weimer
2011-06-05 13:45 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-06-05 14:51 ` Florian Weimer
2011-06-05 15:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-06-07 2:49 ` Randy Brukardt
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