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From: "Phaedrus" <phaedrusalt@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Implementing C/C++ style #include...
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 03:27:57 GMT
Date: 2001-03-27T03:27:57+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1NTv6.16219$ue1.1372775@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3AC002AA.73118A89@votehere.net

Funny, I thought that C++ was the "worst form of evil imaginable".
No, scratch that...  Our software management is the worst form of evil
imaginable,
C++ is just number two.  Or maybe three, after taxes.  But it's a close race.

Pestilence?  Isn't that the same thing as C++?

Phaedrus

"Andrew Berg" <andrewb@votehere.net> wrote in message
news:3AC002AA.73118A89@votehere.net...
>
> Robert A Duff wrote:
> >
> > Pascal Obry <p.obry@wanadoo.fr> writes:
> >
> > > I agree with you that in such a case a preprocessor could be usefull.
Anothe
> > > way to handle this is by writing a template and have the right spec
generated
> > > by a script.
> > >
> > >    function Ada_Size_Of_Input is new
> > >       Interfaces_C_More.Storage_Unit_Size_Of (Input_Type);
> > >    pragma Export (<OS_CONVENTION>, Ada_Size_Of_Input,
> > >                   "ball_ct633_ada_size_of_input",
> > >                   "ball_ct633_ada_size_of_input");
> >
> > Your "script" is, in fact, a macro preprocessor.
> >
> > Are macros more or less evil than #if things?
> > I've heard both opinions in this thread.  ;-)
>
> As a full time C++ programmer, I'm going to have to side with Pascal
> here.  Textual macros are dangerous, but a limited form of dangerous.
>
> #if's on the other hand are quite possibly the worst form of evil
> imaginable, in that it is never really possible to know exactly what is
> going on.  Even in simple cases it is bad, because when maintenance
> happens they always get worse.  I suppose that if you are writing code
> that will never get looked at they might not be so bad, but I have never
> had that luxury.
>
> Probably the only decent application of #if is '#if 0' as a way to
> comment out multiple lines of code at once.  C's /* */ comments cannot
> be nested and it gets really tedious to put //'s everywhere, so #if 0 is
> a useful construct.
>
> If you want an example of the kind of hell I am thinking of, go download
> 'stlport', a reasonably portable, reasonably compliant version of C++'s
> STL.  Look at those header files for a while...
>
> -andrew
>





  reply	other threads:[~2001-03-27  3:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-03-13 18:37 Better support for garbage collection Nick Roberts
2001-03-14  8:16 ` Florian Weimer
2001-03-14 18:52   ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-14 19:40     ` Florian Weimer
2001-03-15 13:18       ` Nick Roberts
2001-03-14 19:29 ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-14 20:59   ` Brian Rogoff
2001-03-16 16:42     ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-17  6:13       ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-03-24  4:08       ` Brian Rogoff
2001-03-15  4:35   ` Nick Roberts
2001-03-15 21:37     ` Randy Brukardt
2001-03-15 22:36     ` Stephen Leake
2001-03-16 16:26     ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-16 16:59       ` Brian Rogoff
2001-03-16 17:31         ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-16 18:29           ` Brian Rogoff
2001-03-17  2:30           ` Nick Roberts
2001-03-17 21:59             ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-17 22:57             ` Static typing (Was Re: Better support for garbage collection) Brian Rogoff
2001-03-17 23:45               ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-18  0:58                 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-03-19 15:24                   ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-20  4:21                     ` Brian Rogoff
2001-03-21  1:32                       ` Ken Garlington
2001-03-21 13:28                         ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-22  2:08                           ` Ken Garlington
2001-03-22 16:40                             ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-25 16:21                               ` Ken Garlington
2001-03-25 16:56                                 ` Ken Garlington
2001-03-25 22:31                                 ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-27  0:24                                   ` Ken Garlington
2001-03-28 23:15                                     ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-29  5:02                                       ` Ken Garlington
2001-03-29  6:13                                         ` David Starner
2001-03-29 10:10                                           ` AG
2001-03-29 14:28                                           ` Ken Garlington
2001-03-29 23:46                                         ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-30  3:41                                           ` Ken Garlington
2001-03-30 21:21                                             ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-31 19:30                                               ` Ken Garlington
2001-04-02 15:27                                                 ` Robert A Duff
2001-04-02 23:29                                                   ` Ken Garlington
2001-03-30 21:29                                             ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-30  9:16                                           ` Dmitry Kazakov
2001-03-30  9:51                                             ` Florian Weimer
2001-04-02  8:54                                               ` Dmitry Kazakov
2001-03-30 16:13                                             ` Ken Garlington
2001-04-02 11:00                                               ` Dmitry Kazakov
2001-03-30 20:44                                             ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-04-02 11:29                                               ` Dmitry Kazakov
2001-04-02 13:15                                                 ` Robert A Duff
2001-04-03  8:57                                                   ` Dmitry Kazakov
2001-03-27  2:39                             ` Andrew Berg
2001-03-27  3:33                               ` Ken Garlington
2001-03-27 14:23                                 ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-27 23:36                                   ` Ken Garlington
2001-03-29 23:50                       ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-19 18:24       ` Better support for garbage collection Tucker Taft
     [not found]   ` <87bsr46kxv.fsf@deneb.enyo.de>
2001-03-15 14:18     ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-15 16:36       ` Florian Weimer
2001-03-14 22:05 ` Laurent Guerby
2001-03-16 16:47   ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-16 19:46     ` Laurent Guerby
2001-03-16 20:10       ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-17 13:14         ` Support for per allocation pool selection (was: Better support for garbage collection) Laurent Guerby
2001-03-17 17:06           ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-17 19:19           ` Florian Weimer
2001-03-17 21:10             ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-15 17:56 ` Better support for garbage collection Ray Blaak
2001-03-21 16:15 ` Implementing C/C++ style #include bhazzard
2001-03-21 16:45   ` Marin David Condic
2001-03-22 15:13     ` Ira D. Baxter
2001-03-22 15:23       ` Marin David Condic
2001-03-25 15:45         ` Anton Gibbs
2001-03-26 14:24           ` Ted Dennison
2001-03-26 15:00             ` Marin David Condic
2001-03-26 14:49           ` Marin David Condic
2001-03-26 18:19             ` Stephen Leake
2001-03-26 18:44               ` Pascal Obry
2001-03-26 21:44                 ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-27  3:02                   ` Andrew Berg
2001-03-27  3:27                     ` Phaedrus [this message]
2001-03-27 17:41                   ` Pascal Obry
2001-03-26 19:18               ` Ted Dennison
2001-03-27 18:51                 ` Anton Gibbs
2001-03-26 19:35               ` Marin David Condic
2001-03-26 23:04                 ` Mark Lundquist
2001-03-27 14:38                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-03-26 16:12           ` Florian Weimer
2001-03-26 17:34             ` David Starner
2001-03-26 22:25               ` Florian Weimer
2001-03-27  3:29                 ` David Starner
2001-03-26 18:23             ` Stephen Leake
2001-03-26 22:34               ` Florian Weimer
2001-03-27  7:34         ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2001-03-27 12:43           ` Dale Stanbrough
2001-03-27 14:40             ` Marin David Condic
2001-03-27 15:01             ` Ted Dennison
2001-03-27 13:20           ` Preben Randhol
2001-03-23 17:39       ` Wes Groleau
2001-03-21 18:07   ` Mark Lundquist
2001-03-22 12:50   ` Chris M. Moore
2001-03-22 14:30     ` Marin David Condic
2001-03-22 21:15       ` singlespeeder
2001-03-22 21:42         ` Marin David Condic
2001-03-23 14:43           ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-03-23 18:51             ` Marin David Condic
2001-03-22 15:02     ` Pat Rogers
2001-03-22 15:28       ` Marin David Condic
2001-03-22 16:32       ` Chris M. Moore
2001-03-22 16:57       ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-26 16:13   ` Martin Dowie
2001-03-26 22:55   ` Phaedrus
2001-03-27  1:36     ` tmoran
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