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From: anon@anon.org (anon)
Subject: Re: TIOBE Programming Community Index for November 2007
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:19:57 GMT
Date: 2007-11-05T13:19:57+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1MEXi.334952$ax1.162469@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 472ec5e7$1@news.post.ch

The problem with this type of survey board is that it uses hits.  Any 
single person can key in the correct information and cause the numbers 
to change in the way he/she likes. Or, any internet programmer can build 
a net application to alter the hits pattern in a few seconds.

Plus, most job hunting programmers do not use the keys "Ada programming" 
or "Ada jobs". They search for the type of job that they want, such as a 
person wanting to work with super-computers might search for 
"Super-computers" or "Super-computers jobs". Or they could search for 
specific jobs like "Programming jobs in weather forecasting" or 
"NASA jobs", in both case super-computers are widely used and neither 
search uses a programming language even though one or both jobs could 
use Ada.

Actually most grads and programmers looking for jobs do not care what 
language they use so long as they can program and not just vacuum out 
a dusty computer cabinet or defrag a hard drive at the local computer 
repair shop.

And for Ada.  The name is not copyrighted! Just entering "Ada" in 
a search engine will get you site for. 

 American Dental Association
 American Diabetes Association 
 American Dietetic Association
 Americans with Disabilities Act
 Alternative Distribution Alliance
 Aeronautical Development Agency
 ...
 and finally [ Ada (programming language) ]
 ...

Because those topics and others use programming, you could see links to 
those website and others if you use "Ada programming" but the 
programming languages site should pop up more frequently than the others, 
but that not always the case at google. 

Then there are people like me who have yet to use "Ada programming" in 
a search engine. "Ada Language" is better and limits the data to the 
Ada language and its related fields.

So, the hit counter is not a perfect list as TIOBE would like you to 
believe.


In <472ec5e7$1@news.post.ch>, Martin Krischik <krischik@users.sourceforge.net> writes:
>anon schrieb:
>> Means nothing!  
>> 
>> The rating as states is based on search engines. At the beginning of 
>> classes students are searching for sites to find help.  After a month 
>> most have them the links and are no longer searching. So, the rating 
>> drops.  A better check will be after the final exam and before the next 
>> class begins.
>> 
>
>Prehaps you should read the definition:
>
>http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index/tpci_definition.htm
>
>Aa far as I understand it they just count hits. If you got to google and
>execute:
>
>http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=de&newwindow=1&q=%2B%22Ada+programming%22&btnG=Suche&lr=lang_de%7Clang_en
>
>you get 220.000 pages. Note the use of +"Ada programming" - without the
>+  and the " it would be a lot more. I think adding:
>
><META NAME="KEYWORDS" CONTENT="Ada programming">
>
>to every Ada related page would do the trick.
>
>Martin
>
>-- 
>mailto://krischik@users.sourceforge.net
>Ada programming at: http://ada.krischik.com




  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-11-05 13:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-04 17:56 TIOBE Programming Community Index for November 2007 Martin Krischik
2007-11-04 19:08 ` j.khaldi
2007-11-04 21:27   ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-11-04 21:09 ` Markus E L
2007-11-05  9:19   ` Martin Krischik
2007-11-05 10:24     ` Markus E L
2007-11-06 20:20     ` Gautier
2007-11-05  1:10 ` anon
2007-11-05  7:27   ` Martin Krischik
2007-11-05  8:54     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-11-05  9:35       ` Martin Krischik
2007-11-05 11:07         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-11-05 19:46         ` Manuel Gomez
2007-11-05 10:11       ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-11-05 11:07         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-11-05  9:34     ` Stephen Leake
2007-11-05 10:05       ` Martin Krischik
2007-11-06 10:21         ` Stephen Leake
2007-11-06 17:38           ` Martin Krischik
2007-11-05 13:19     ` anon [this message]
2007-11-05 13:54       ` Martin Krischik
2007-11-05 16:00         ` anon
2007-11-05 16:10           ` Martin Krischik
2007-11-05  9:29 ` Stephen Leake
2007-11-05 10:16   ` Martin Krischik
2007-11-06 10:19     ` Stephen Leake
2007-11-06 10:56       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-11-06 17:25       ` Martin Krischik
2007-11-06 20:35 ` Simon Wright
2007-11-07 16:22   ` Martin Krischik
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