From: David Botton <david@botton.com>
Subject: Re: What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT?
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 15:21:12 -0800 (PST)
Date: 2014-11-12T15:21:12-08:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <19fa65d4-72c9-44ab-b44b-4ea0929c18f2@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m40odq$tdv$1@loke.gir.dk>
> Unfortunately, if it is like most of David's other software, it won't work
> on other Ada compilers
Not true. Janus is the only Windows compiler with an issue.
There was an ABI issue with using Janus that was too much effort for me to consider as a volunteer effort for a non Open Source compiler, however, GnatCOM was used on Aonix OpenAda and in Rational's Ada compiler. Privately I can give you a list of projects where I know it was used if you like not on GNAT.
I do not know if GWindows was used on other compilers, but other than the fact that I tend to use Object'Img there is nothing GNAT specific about the project. Since GNAT is the only open source compiler, it is the only one I choose to support until there are others.
> That requires displine and testing that most hobbyests wouldn't bother with.
I think that you confuse Open Source developers with "Hobbyest", that is usually not the case at all.
GnatCOM was a professional supported product by GNAT.
GWindows is used as a professional product by fortune 500 companies. I didn't go through with my plan 10 years ago with bringing Ada to the business sector because of license changes in GNAT to the public version and various other issues. Using FSF compilers in those days was not a big option.
There is nothing in Gnoga other than the use again of Object'Img preventing it from being used on Janus if it ever gets updated to Ada 2012. I'd be happy to help you do the work to replace AWS if needed with your own implementation of Websockets, etc.
I think that for many people they have not "figured" out how to make Open Source work to their advantage. It has in my career.
I'd be happy to talk to you privately any time about how to make Janus work in an Open Source environment provided you could open it. If you can't perhaps we can talk about options for a new Open Source compiler. I really liked Janus.
Your CLAW Open Source version came too late, if it was a year before I probably would have forked it and used it instead of created GWindows.
David Botton
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2014-11-10 9:30 What exactly is the licensing situation with Gnat? Hubert
2014-11-10 10:03 ` Markus Schöpflin
2014-11-10 10:38 ` What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT? Jacob Sparre Andersen
2014-11-10 11:09 ` Hubert
2014-11-10 11:19 ` Markus Schöpflin
2014-11-10 15:45 ` David Botton
2014-11-11 0:09 ` Hubert
2014-11-11 10:54 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-11-11 11:05 ` Hubert
2014-11-11 13:37 ` john
2014-11-11 22:52 ` Hubert
2014-11-11 23:10 ` David Botton
2014-11-11 23:25 ` Alan Jump
2014-11-12 0:50 ` David Botton
2014-11-12 1:02 ` Simon Clubley
2014-11-12 7:09 ` Gour
2014-11-12 11:06 ` David Botton
2014-11-12 7:41 ` Simon Wright
2014-11-13 1:30 ` Simon Clubley
2014-11-12 1:15 ` Hubert
2014-11-12 1:24 ` David Botton
2014-11-12 1:33 ` Hubert
2014-11-12 7:13 ` Gour
2014-11-12 10:56 ` David Botton
2014-11-12 8:12 ` Simon Wright
2014-11-12 8:35 ` Hubert
2014-11-12 9:25 ` Mark Carroll
2014-11-12 9:37 ` Hubert
2014-11-12 10:31 ` jm.tarrasa
2014-11-12 10:43 ` J-P. Rosen
2014-11-12 10:44 ` Hubert
2014-11-12 12:06 ` Gour
2014-11-12 12:38 ` David Botton
2014-11-12 15:23 ` Gour
2014-11-12 16:30 ` David Botton
2014-11-12 13:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-12 22:53 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-12 23:21 ` David Botton [this message]
2014-11-13 1:49 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-13 8:18 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-11-13 21:51 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-14 8:36 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-14 22:24 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-14 22:43 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-11-15 9:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-18 0:37 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-18 9:04 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-14 4:51 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-14 5:12 ` David Botton
2014-11-14 6:13 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-14 8:40 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-14 22:29 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-15 9:29 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-15 9:40 ` Pascal Obry
2014-11-15 11:18 ` Tero Koskinen
2014-11-15 11:36 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-18 0:28 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-18 9:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-18 22:25 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-19 9:10 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-19 23:59 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-20 9:53 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-20 21:23 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-21 9:38 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-21 22:12 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-22 9:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-15 17:32 ` Florian Weimer
2014-11-15 19:58 ` 'Image (was: What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT?) Georg Bauhaus
2014-11-18 0:39 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-18 8:20 ` 'Image Björn Lundin
2014-11-18 22:29 ` 'Image Randy Brukardt
2014-11-19 13:46 ` 'Image (was: What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT?) Brian Drummond
2014-11-19 14:21 ` 'Image G.B.
2014-11-20 13:32 ` 'Image Brian Drummond
2014-11-13 0:48 ` What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT? sbelmont700
2014-11-13 1:31 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-13 1:29 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-13 8:03 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-11-13 22:22 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-13 16:26 ` Tero Koskinen
2014-11-13 22:29 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-13 1:54 ` Hubert
2014-11-13 2:04 ` Hubert
2014-11-13 7:53 ` Luther Bogart
2014-11-13 7:58 ` Luther Bogart
2014-11-13 16:38 ` Tero Koskinen
2014-11-13 21:57 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-13 22:02 ` Mark Carroll
2014-11-13 22:43 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-11-14 1:36 ` Hubert
2014-11-14 4:45 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-14 5:24 ` Hubert
2014-11-14 8:51 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-14 9:02 ` Stan Mills
2014-11-14 10:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-14 10:38 ` Stan Mills
2014-11-14 12:57 ` Peter Chapin
2014-11-14 22:33 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-17 8:28 ` Stan Mills
2014-11-14 13:35 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-14 15:29 ` Things that OO programming lacks (was: What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT?) G.B.
2014-11-14 16:32 ` Things that OO programming lacks Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-15 19:46 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-11-16 10:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-16 18:51 ` Shark8
2014-11-16 19:33 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-17 15:17 ` G.B.
2014-11-17 17:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-17 18:23 ` G.B.
2014-11-17 20:02 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-11-17 21:05 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-18 10:14 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-11-18 13:42 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-18 18:50 ` G.B.
2014-11-18 19:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-17 19:21 ` Shark8
2014-11-17 20:44 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-16 17:54 ` Simon Wright
2014-11-16 19:01 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-11-16 19:14 ` Simon Wright
2014-11-16 19:39 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-16 20:33 ` Simon Wright
2014-11-17 8:44 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-17 14:29 ` Simon Wright
2014-11-17 17:38 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-17 8:36 ` What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT? Stan Mills
2014-11-17 11:03 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-17 14:20 ` G.B.
2014-11-14 9:19 ` Hubert
2014-11-14 10:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-15 1:00 ` Hubert
2014-11-15 1:24 ` Hubert
2014-11-15 9:45 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-15 10:27 ` Hubert
2014-11-15 19:44 ` Robert A Duff
2014-11-15 7:22 ` Gour
2014-11-15 9:57 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-15 10:51 ` Gour
2014-11-15 11:26 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-15 12:41 ` Gour
2014-11-15 13:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-17 8:11 ` Stan Mills
2014-11-17 8:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-17 8:48 ` Stan Mills
2014-11-17 10:40 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-13 8:03 ` Pete Ballmer
2014-11-13 8:41 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-11-13 8:59 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-11-12 11:18 ` David Botton
2014-11-13 0:01 ` David Botton
2014-11-13 0:03 ` David Botton
2014-11-12 11:15 ` David Botton
2014-11-13 23:56 ` David Botton
2014-11-14 7:50 ` community-based compiler (was Re: What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT?) Gour
2014-11-14 7:57 ` community-based compiler Gour
2014-11-14 14:53 ` community-based compiler (was Re: What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT?) Luke A. Guest
2014-11-14 14:57 ` David Botton
2014-11-14 16:16 ` Luke A. Guest
2014-11-14 16:34 ` David Botton
2014-11-14 16:42 ` Luke A. Guest
2014-11-16 19:30 ` community-based compiler Florian Weimer
2014-11-14 15:27 ` Gour
2014-11-14 16:16 ` Luke A. Guest
2014-11-14 16:26 ` Gour
2014-11-14 16:48 ` Luke A. Guest
2014-11-16 19:31 ` Florian Weimer
2014-11-14 16:03 ` community-based compiler (was Re: What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT?) Tero Koskinen
2014-11-14 22:40 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-15 1:07 ` Luke A. Guest
2014-11-15 8:08 ` community-based compiler Gour
2014-11-16 19:29 ` Florian Weimer
2014-11-14 17:13 ` community-based compiler (was Re: What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT?) Shark8
2014-11-14 18:55 ` David Botton
2014-11-14 20:53 ` Shark8
2014-11-14 21:07 ` Luke A. Guest
2014-11-14 22:35 ` Shark8
2014-11-15 1:07 ` Luke A. Guest
2014-11-18 0:52 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-18 3:06 ` Luke A. Guest
2014-11-18 9:25 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-11-18 22:33 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-15 12:44 ` Brian Drummond
2014-11-15 22:47 ` Shark8
2014-11-16 11:12 ` Brian Drummond
2014-11-16 21:38 ` Shark8
2014-11-17 11:28 ` Natasha Kerensikova
2014-11-19 13:48 ` Brian Drummond
2014-11-27 12:52 ` Brian Drummond
2014-11-14 21:05 ` Luke A. Guest
2014-11-14 8:25 ` What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT? Pete Ballmer
2014-11-14 12:46 ` Peter Chapin
2014-11-15 8:47 ` Mart van de Wege
2014-11-16 9:32 ` Pete Ballmer
2014-11-16 19:41 ` Florian Weimer
2014-11-12 13:31 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2014-11-12 14:33 ` David Botton
2014-11-12 15:07 ` David Botton
2014-11-12 16:39 ` Simon Wright
2014-11-12 23:06 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-12 23:31 ` David Botton
2014-11-13 1:59 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-13 2:21 ` David Botton
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2014-11-12 9:30 ` Mark Carroll
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