From: kilgallen@eisner.decus.org (Larry Kilgallen)
Subject: Re: Code size of Ada ? was Re: Ada95 Strengths/Weaknesses.
Date: 1999/09/29
Date: 1999-09-29T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1999Sep29.075617.1@eisner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7srnb9$2u3$1@nnrp1.deja.com
In article <7srnb9$2u3$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Robert Dewar <robert_dewar@my-deja.com> writes:
> The size of large programs is a concern, but measuring the
> size of hello world programs has nothing at all to do with
> the size of real programs, since what you are really
> concentrating on here is the default size of the minimal
> run-time library.
>
> This can be important in e.g. safety critical embedded
> applications, where the appropriate approach is to use the
> No_Run_Time facility of GNAT (GNORT) to eliminate the run
> time entirely.
>
> Note that the original note here worried about performance,
> which is of course a completely different issue, and it was
> really that issue which I was addressing, I simply can't
> get to excited about saving hundredths of cents worth of
> disk for the image of a hello world program :-)
Although many people have written small programs for test
purposes, most of them run those programs in environments
tuned for running much larger programs. In fact, if you
run a trivial program on a capable operating system it will
incur all sorts of overhead setting up for the possibility
of multiple DLLs, etc. that are never needed for "Hello World".
So a bare machine will indeed provide the most efficient
environment for "Hello World", so long as your calculations
value your own time as worth zero.
For a truly efficient solution, use a pencil to write
"Hello World" on a piece of paper and be done with it.
Larry Kilgallen
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1999-09-27 0:00 Ada95 Strengths/Weaknesses the middleman
1999-09-27 0:00 ` David Starner
1999-09-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28 0:00 ` David Starner
1999-09-29 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1999-09-28 0:00 ` David Starner
1999-09-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28 0:00 ` Ray Blaak
1999-09-28 0:00 ` the middleman
1999-09-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28 0:00 ` GNAT listing file default names (was: Ada95 Strengths/Weaknesses) Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-28 0:00 ` Gautier
1999-09-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-29 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-29 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-30 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28 0:00 ` Code size of Ada ? was Re: Ada95 Strengths/Weaknesses Alfred Hilscher
1999-09-28 0:00 ` Gautier
1999-09-28 0:00 ` David Botton
1999-09-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-29 0:00 ` Alfred Hilscher
1999-09-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-30 0:00 ` Alfred Hilscher
1999-09-30 0:00 ` Gautier
1999-09-30 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-29 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen [this message]
1999-09-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-29 0:00 ` Alfred Hilscher
1999-09-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-30 0:00 ` Alfred Hilscher
1999-09-30 0:00 ` Gautier
1999-09-30 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-30 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-30 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-30 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-30 0:00 ` tmoran
1999-09-30 0:00 ` Ehud Lamm
1999-09-30 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
[not found] ` <7t2e1l$lqt2@ftp.kvaerner.com>
[not found] ` <37F91D6E.58685CFE@mitre.org>
[not found] ` <7tf7uo$h2b$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
[not found] ` <37FBA978.A86762F1@mitre.org>
1999-10-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-10-19 0:00 ` Code size of Ada ? Robert I. Eachus
[not found] ` <7tf7uo <37FBA978.A86762F1@mitre.org>
[not found] ` <5OkO3.2$1e.659@typhoon.nyu.edu>
1999-10-19 0:00 ` Code size of Ada ? was Re: Ada95 Strengths/Weaknesses Robert I. Eachus
1999-09-29 0:00 ` Gautier
1999-09-29 0:00 ` Ed Falis
1999-09-29 0:00 ` Gautier
1999-09-29 0:00 ` tmoran
1999-09-30 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-29 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-09-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28 0:00 ` David Starner
1999-09-28 0:00 ` p.obry
1999-09-28 0:00 ` David Starner
1999-09-28 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-09-28 0:00 ` Gautier
1999-09-28 0:00 ` David Starner
1999-09-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28 0:00 ` Ed Falis
1999-09-28 0:00 ` David Starner
1999-09-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-09-28 0:00 ` Simon Wright
1999-09-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28 0:00 ` David Starner
1999-09-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-30 0:00 ` Pragma (was Re: Ada95 Strengths/Weaknesses.) Preben Randhol
1999-09-30 0:00 ` Preben Randhol
1999-09-27 0:00 ` Ada95 Strengths/Weaknesses Marin David Condic
1999-09-27 0:00 ` Hyman Rosen
1999-09-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28 0:00 ` Preben Randhol
1999-09-28 0:00 ` bill
1999-09-27 0:00 ` Aidan Skinner
1999-09-28 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-28 0:00 ` Steve Doiel
1999-09-28 0:00 ` Preben Randhol
1999-09-28 0:00 ` Ed Falis
1999-09-28 0:00 ` Hyman Rosen
1999-09-28 0:00 ` Ed Falis
1999-09-28 0:00 ` Preben Randhol
1999-09-27 0:00 ` Steve Doiel
1999-09-27 0:00 ` J. David Bryan
1999-09-28 0:00 ` Geoff Bull
1999-09-29 0:00 ` the middleman
1999-09-29 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1999-09-28 0:00 ` Geoff Bull
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