From: kilgallen@eisner.decus.org (Larry Kilgallen)
Subject: Re: Help help.. please.i am totaly new in ada programing
Date: 1999/11/03
Date: 1999-11-03T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1999Nov3.081300.1@eisner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7voc8j$3g1$1@nnrp1.deja.com
In article <7voc8j$3g1$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Robert Dewar <robert_dewar@my-deja.com> writes:
> In article <1999Nov2.195237.1@eisner>,
> Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam wrote:
>> If it were a GNAT port, the one thing not possible without
>> scripts would be programmer portability. It would not look
>> like GNAT on other platforms, which to some people would be a
>> considerable drawback.
>
>
> No, you very much miss the point, it is *program* portability
> that is the issue. Many large programs exist as a complex set
> of scripts, and any development environment which requires these
> scripts to be completely rethought is crippled in my view.
That would seem to be the case with my MMS files that run DEC Ada
if I were to switch to GNAT :-). Yes, porting programs from machine
to machine is easier with the same build environment everywhere.
As someone who tends to need OS-specific interfaces, it is probably
one of the smaller problems I face in such porting.
> Also, real environments require total trackability. It is fine
> for people to point and click around, but the record of their
> points and clicks must be integrated into the configuration
> management system.
Audit trails are a different matter from text-based control mechanisms.
If you find a serious Macintosh user they probably have the Retrospect
backup product. It has a highly refined audit trail (not called that)
which is accessed in a fully GUI fashion much better than the VMS use
of BACKUP/JOURNAL/SELECT.
> I don't begin to regard Think Pascal as a viable complete
> solution for the development of large projects (millions of
> lines with thousands of files) with strict configuration control
> and management of multiple development branches.
No, but it serves as a reference for GUI-based development. Someone
with committment to a product (unlike Symantec) and a market for that
sort of GUI-based development (unlike ACT I presume, given the strong
emphasis on platform portability) _could_ build a highly useful tool.
But like many things in software, there is a question of how many are
interested.
I believe the original contention to which I was responding was
that it was technically impossible, as distinguished from not a
viable economic proposition.
Larry Kilgallen
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1999-10-29 0:00 Help help.. please.i am totaly new in ada programing vico
1999-10-29 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-10-29 0:00 ` Gautier
1999-10-29 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-10-30 0:00 ` Dave Taylor
1999-10-30 0:00 ` gnat on macintosh James E. Hopper
1999-10-30 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-10-30 0:00 ` James E. Hopper
1999-10-31 0:00 ` Help help.. please.i am totaly new in ada programing Robert Dewar
1999-10-29 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-10-29 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1999-10-30 0:00 ` Siow Wey Hua
1999-10-29 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-10-29 0:00 ` David Starner
1999-10-31 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-10-31 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-10-31 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-01 0:00 ` Gautier
1999-11-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-02 0:00 ` Gautier
1999-11-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-02 0:00 ` tmoran
1999-11-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-03 0:00 ` tmoran
[not found] ` <01bf25cc$5d390fc0$022a6282@dieppe>
1999-11-03 0:00 ` Georg Bauhaus
1999-11-04 0:00 ` David Botton
1999-11-03 0:00 ` Georg Bauhaus
1999-11-03 0:00 ` tmoran
1999-11-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-04 0:00 ` tmoran
1999-11-04 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1999-11-04 0:00 ` tmoran
1999-11-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-08 0:00 ` Georg Bauhaus
1999-11-08 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-04 0:00 ` Georg Bauhaus
1999-11-03 0:00 ` Preben Randhol
1999-11-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-03 0:00 ` Confusing language, was " tmoran
1999-11-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-04 0:00 ` tmoran
1999-11-04 0:00 ` David Starner
1999-11-04 0:00 ` tmoran
1999-11-04 0:00 ` Hyman Rosen
1999-11-04 0:00 ` Aidan Skinner
1999-11-05 0:00 ` Craig Spannring
1999-11-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-05 0:00 ` Stefan Skoglund
1999-11-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-04 0:00 ` David Starner
1999-11-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-09 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1999-11-10 0:00 ` tmoran
1999-11-04 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-11-05 0:00 ` Stefan Skoglund
1999-11-06 0:00 ` tmoran
1999-11-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-08 0:00 ` Tarjei Jensen
1999-11-08 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-09 0:00 ` Tarjei Jensen
1999-11-09 0:00 ` Y2K liability, was " tmoran
1999-11-09 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-08 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-08 0:00 ` Marin Condic
1999-11-08 0:00 ` Ehud Lamm
1999-11-09 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-11-09 0:00 ` Ehud Lamm
1999-11-09 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1999-11-09 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-09 0:00 ` Marin Condic
1999-11-09 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-11-10 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1999-11-10 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-11-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-11 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1999-11-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-11 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1999-11-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-11 0:00 ` Marin Condic
1999-11-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-12 0:00 ` Marin Condic
1999-11-13 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-12 0:00 ` Marin Condic
1999-11-19 0:00 ` GNAT.Calendar (was: Re: Confusing language, was Re: Help help.. please.i am totaly new in ada programing) Mario Amado Alves
1999-11-19 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-12 0:00 ` Confusing language, was Re: Help help.. please.i am totaly new in ada programing Robert I. Eachus
1999-11-12 0:00 ` Marin Condic
1999-11-13 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-13 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1999-11-15 0:00 ` Samuel T. Harris
1999-11-15 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-11-15 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-11 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1999-11-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-10 0:00 ` Confusing language etc Nick Roberts
1999-11-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-04 0:00 ` Confusing language, was Re: Help help.. please.i am totaly new in ada programing Richard D Riehle
1999-11-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-05 0:00 ` Stefan Skoglund
1999-11-05 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-11-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-03 0:00 ` Georg Bauhaus
1999-11-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-04 0:00 ` Georg Bauhaus
1999-11-05 0:00 ` Stefan Skoglund
1999-11-04 0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
1999-11-05 0:00 ` Stefan Skoglund
1999-11-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-02 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-11-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-02 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-11-03 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-11-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-03 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen [this message]
1999-11-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-02 0:00 ` Gautier
1999-11-03 0:00 ` Aidan Skinner
1999-11-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-02 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-11-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-02 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1999-11-02 0:00 ` Aidan Skinner
1999-11-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-11-03 0:00 ` Free Software -- was, " Richard D Riehle
1999-11-01 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-10-29 0:00 ` David Botton
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