* adverts on c.l.a @ 1999-03-01 0:00 Pat Rogers 1999-03-01 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Pat Rogers @ 1999-03-01 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Lately there have been a few advertisements for services posted to comp.lang.ada. What do people think of these? Are the appropriate? --- Pat Rogers progers@classwide.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: adverts on c.l.a 1999-03-01 0:00 adverts on c.l.a Pat Rogers @ 1999-03-01 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen 1999-03-01 0:00 ` robert_dewar 1999-03-01 0:00 ` Steve Quinlan 2 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Larry Kilgallen @ 1999-03-01 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <7be6nm$4b9$1@remarQ.com>, "Pat Rogers" <progers@NOclasswideSPAM.com> writes: > Lately there have been a few advertisements for services posted to > comp.lang.ada. What do people think of these? Are the appropriate? I do not recall them. I would (and do) object when a post does not deal specifically with Ada. Larry Kilgallen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: adverts on c.l.a 1999-03-01 0:00 adverts on c.l.a Pat Rogers 1999-03-01 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen @ 1999-03-01 0:00 ` robert_dewar 1999-03-01 0:00 ` Nick Roberts 1999-03-01 0:00 ` Pat Rogers 1999-03-01 0:00 ` Steve Quinlan 2 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: robert_dewar @ 1999-03-01 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <7be6nm$4b9$1@remarQ.com>, "Pat Rogers" <progers@NOclasswideSPAM.com> wrote: > Lately there have been a few advertisements for services > posted to comp.lang.ada. What do people think of these? > Are the appropriate? My own feeling is that it is fine to have brief commercial announcements about products or services. They should be informational and brief. But for example, if a vendor has a new version of an Ada compiler, or someone is teaching Ada 95 courses or trying to recruit for an Ada job, that seems fine to me. It is not as though we are overwhelmed by such commercial messages. (we might be more overwhelmed by responses to this post, which comes perilously close to being a troll :-) :-) -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: adverts on c.l.a 1999-03-01 0:00 ` robert_dewar @ 1999-03-01 0:00 ` Nick Roberts 1999-03-02 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle 1999-03-01 0:00 ` Pat Rogers 1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Nick Roberts @ 1999-03-01 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) robert_dewar@my-dejanews.com wrote in message <7beilk$q5a$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>... [...] |My own feeling is that it is fine to have brief commercial |announcements about products or services. They should be |informational and brief. But for example, if a vendor has |a new version of an Ada compiler, or someone is teaching |Ada 95 courses or trying to recruit for an Ada job, that |seems fine to me. It is not as though we are overwhelmed |by such commercial messages. Seconded. ------------------------------------- Nick Roberts ------------------------------------- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: adverts on c.l.a 1999-03-01 0:00 ` Nick Roberts @ 1999-03-02 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle 1999-03-01 0:00 ` David Botton 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Richard D Riehle @ 1999-03-02 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) robert_dewar@my-dejanews.com wrote in message >[...] >My own feeling is that it is fine to have brief commercial >announcements about products or services. They should be >informational and brief. But for example, if a vendor has >a new version of an Ada compiler, or someone is teaching >Ada 95 courses or trying to recruit for an Ada job, that >seems fine to me. It is not as though we are overwhelmed >by such commercial messages. We have been very careful not to post announcements of our own classes and products on c.l.a to avoid offending those who dislike such things. However, I personally appreciate the job postings by brain transplant specialists, even if they are professional recruiting firms. Also, I would like to see more announcements from compiler publishers about new versions of compilers, new platforms, etc. That seems to me to be actual news related to Ada. This is a news forum as well as a discussion group, not so? Richard Riehle richard@adaworks.com http://www.adaworks.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: adverts on c.l.a 1999-03-02 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle @ 1999-03-01 0:00 ` David Botton 1999-03-02 0:00 ` robert_dewar 1999-03-04 0:00 ` Magnus Kempe 0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: David Botton @ 1999-03-01 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) It certainly makes the Ada community look alive and kicking when a visitor comes by. Adverts that contain any kind of updates to Ada technology available should be highly encouraged. Even adeverts announcing up coming Ada user group meetings and training seminars should be highly encouraged to help produce this affect. Also, some one should take over maintaining FAQs for CLA as Magnus Kempe has expressed that he is no longer actively working on AdaHome, or as it seems the FAQs. c.l.a policy could be expressed there and help those that are active on the list (such as myself) to get a better picture of the consensus on what is considered appropriate and not for c.l.a. (This is not an advertisement to start a thread on this here and now, nor to discuss my own post on CompUSA policy that some felt was too off topic to belong here.) It would also help if we agreed on one "police man" for the group who would politely mention that something is off topic and perhaps this is not the best place to be posting XYZ. (For e.g.. Larry's remark on the CompUSA thread was appropriate, well placed, and not personal. I will judge differently what is considered appropriate on c.l.a before posting here.) David Botton Richard D Riehle wrote: > Also, I would > like to see more announcements from compiler publishers about > new versions of compilers, new platforms, etc. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: adverts on c.l.a 1999-03-01 0:00 ` David Botton @ 1999-03-02 0:00 ` robert_dewar 1999-03-02 0:00 ` David Botton 1999-03-04 0:00 ` Magnus Kempe 1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: robert_dewar @ 1999-03-02 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <36DB6F31.5A35224D@Botton.com>, David Botton <David@Botton.com> wrote: > It would also help if we agreed on one "police man" for > the group who would politely mention that something is > off topic and perhaps this is not the best place to be > posting XYZ. (For e.g.. Larry's remark on the CompUSA > thread was appropriate, well placed, and not personal. I > will judge differently what is considered appropriate on > c.l.a before posting here.) I think there is nothing useful between a moderated and unmoderated group. People posting inappropriate messages will get email telling them it is inappropriate and they can decide for themselves. Glad to see that David realizes that the compusa post was way outside the limits :-) Robert Dewar -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: adverts on c.l.a 1999-03-02 0:00 ` robert_dewar @ 1999-03-02 0:00 ` David Botton 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: David Botton @ 1999-03-02 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Yes, and I think we should pick one person to do this, perhaps some one who does things politely, with tact, and does not make things personal. I suggest neither of us should try out for this position :) David Botton robert_dewar@my-dejanews.com wrote: > People posting inappropriate messages > will get email telling them it is inappropriate and they > can decide for themselves. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: adverts on c.l.a 1999-03-01 0:00 ` David Botton 1999-03-02 0:00 ` robert_dewar @ 1999-03-04 0:00 ` Magnus Kempe 1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Magnus Kempe @ 1999-03-04 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David Botton > ... Magnus Kempe > has expressed that he is no longer actively working on AdaHome You are mistaken. Please ask me before you make such statements in public, thank you. > or as it > seems the FAQs. I'll gladly leave the maintenance of the FAQs to a competent volunteer (please contact me at editor@adahome.com as well as Team-Ada to discuss it). Magnus Kempe editor@adahome.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: adverts on c.l.a 1999-03-01 0:00 ` robert_dewar 1999-03-01 0:00 ` Nick Roberts @ 1999-03-01 0:00 ` Pat Rogers 1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Pat Rogers @ 1999-03-01 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) robert_dewar@my-dejanews.com wrote in message <7beilk$q5a$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>... >In article <7be6nm$4b9$1@remarQ.com>, > "Pat Rogers" <progers@NOclasswideSPAM.com> wrote: >> Lately there have been a few advertisements for services >> posted to comp.lang.ada. What do people think of these? >> Are the appropriate? > >My own feeling is that it is fine to have brief commercial >announcements about products or services. They should be >informational and brief. But for example, if a vendor has >a new version of an Ada compiler, or someone is teaching >Ada 95 courses or trying to recruit for an Ada job, that >seems fine to me. It is not as though we are overwhelmed >by such commercial messages. > >(we might be more overwhelmed by responses to this post, >which comes perilously close to being a troll :-) :-) No no, I assure you the question was posted in good faith. :-) The advert that prompted this was one offering information about up-coming training in the language. I have never felt comfortable advertising here on c.l.a. and wondered how people felt about it. Note that I'm not saying anybody has crossed any kind of line -- that's post in response to the one that prompted my question -- I just wanted to know how readers felt about it. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: adverts on c.l.a 1999-03-01 0:00 adverts on c.l.a Pat Rogers 1999-03-01 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen 1999-03-01 0:00 ` robert_dewar @ 1999-03-01 0:00 ` Steve Quinlan 1999-03-01 0:00 ` dennison 2 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Steve Quinlan @ 1999-03-01 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Not to bad, if really Ada related, though it could get out of hand. (We should be so lucky that CLA gets overwhelmed by people wanting to hire us, huh?) What really bothers me is I know for a fact that my email address has been "lifted" off of CLA and nowhere else by people who sent me email, one was someone doing recruiting, one was some other scam totally unrelated to Ada, or anything else of a technical nature. But, once you put out yer address, you're fair game these days I guess. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: adverts on c.l.a 1999-03-01 0:00 ` Steve Quinlan @ 1999-03-01 0:00 ` dennison 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: dennison @ 1999-03-01 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) As to the advert issue, I don't mind them at all, if posted by a regular c.l.a poster. The poster at least ought to be willing to hang out and answer questions. A bunch of slick empty marketing drivel would be less than welcome. Ada job postings are in a different category entirely. Even if you aren't looking for a job, they are much less of a nuisance than the "there are no Ada jobs" flamewars we'd get otherwise. In article <36DABF5E.E060CB3B@lmco.com>, Steve Quinlan <steven.quinlan@lmco.com> wrote: > us, huh?) What really bothers me is I know for a fact that my email > address has been "lifted" off of CLA and nowhere else by people who > sent me email, one was someone doing recruiting, one was some other scam > totally unrelated to Ada, or anything else of a technical nature. But, > once you put out yer address, you're fair game these days I guess. Ditto here. When I was at lmc I got a lot of spam directed to an email address I had ceased using 4 years before. I suspect I'm not the only one, based on the number of munged email addresses I see people using here. I've found with a bit of effort put into an email filter, spam actualy can be quite entertaining. Some of the scams are downright hilarious. T.E.D. -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
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