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From: kilgallen@eisner.decus.org (Larry Kilgallen)
Subject: Re: EGCS & GNAT Was (Re: GNAT versions)
Date: 1999/04/26
Date: 1999-04-26T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1999Apr26.074128.1@eisner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7g0qj1$1td0$1@Mercury.mcs.net

In article <7g0qj1$1td0$1@Mercury.mcs.net>, les@MCS.COM (Leslie Mikesell) writes:
> In article <1999Apr25.201259.1@eisner>,
> Larry Kilgallen <kilgallen@eisner.decus.org> wrote:

>>As an Ada fan, I would much prefer the versions of Ada available
>>(from all sources) were as defect-free as possible, so those who
>>are not already firmly in the Ada camp will not get disuaded by
>>encountering defects.
> 
> If the old versions are perfect, why is there ongoing development?

Of course some development is for new features.  A compiler that
complied perfectly with the RM could still be improved in optimization,
quality of error messages, etc.  There might be other defects going to
the absolute correctness of the compiler.  What there should never be
in a released version is DEFECTS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY FIXED.

If you maintain that those internal "wavefront" releases cannot
introduce a regression, might it be the case that ACT wastes time
by running full regression tests before a release ?  If so, then
you can dismiss all the alleged "added value" Robert spoke about
from their extensive test battery and just make your own changes
to the compiler.

In fact, if you are so upset about the way ACT behaves, you can set
up a competing GNAT development effort.  When the time comes, however,
for me to pay money to a vendor for GNAT, and I have my choice between
a vendor who tests and a vendor who doesn't, I have no question about
which way my decision would go.

Larry Kilgallen




  parent reply	other threads:[~1999-04-26  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-04-17  0:00 Ada compiler for PC? Michael Feher
1999-04-17  0:00 ` Tom Moran
1999-04-18  0:00   ` Tom Moran
1999-04-20  0:00   ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-20  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-20  0:00       ` GNAT versions ( was :Ada compiler for PC?) SpamSpamSpam
1999-04-21  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-21  0:00           ` Glen
1999-04-21  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-21  0:00               ` root
1999-04-22  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-22  0:00                   ` Glen
1999-04-23  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-22  0:00                       ` Russell Senior
1999-04-23  0:00                         ` Samuel Mize
1999-04-23  0:00                           ` Russell Senior
1999-04-23  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-23  0:00                               ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-23  0:00                             ` Samuel Mize
1999-04-25  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
     [not found]                             ` <7fqld6$htu$1@nnrp1.dej <1999Apr23.172908.1@eisner>
     [not found]                               ` <7frqmj$bg6$1@mulga.cs.mu.oz.au>
1999-04-24  0:00                                 ` Leslie Mikesell
1999-04-25  0:00                                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-25  0:00                                     ` Russ Allbery
1999-04-25  0:00                                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-25  0:00                                     ` Maciej Stachowiak
1999-04-26  0:00                                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-25  0:00                                         ` Maciej Stachowiak
1999-04-26  0:00                                         ` Per Bothner
1999-04-27  0:00                                           ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-27  0:00                                             ` Matthew Heaney
1999-04-28  0:00                                               ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00                                                 ` David Kastrup
1999-04-28  0:00                                                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00                                                 ` Per Bothner
1999-04-30  0:00                                                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-04  0:00                                                   ` Mike Stump
1999-05-05  0:00                                                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-06  0:00                                                       ` Mike Stump
1999-05-06  0:00                                                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-06  0:00                                                           ` Andi Kleen
1999-05-06  0:00                                                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-07  0:00                                                           ` Mike Stump
1999-05-07  0:00                                                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-08  0:00                                                       ` Pascal F. Martin
1999-05-08  0:00                                                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-08  0:00                                                           ` bill
1999-05-17  0:00                                                   ` Richard Kenner
1999-05-19  0:00                                                     ` Nick Roberts
1999-04-27  0:00                                           ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-27  0:00                                           ` Stan Shebs
1999-04-24  0:00                               ` Fergus Henderson
1999-04-24  0:00                             ` Russ Allbery
1999-04-23  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-23  0:00                         ` Pascal Obry
1999-04-23  0:00                           ` dennison
1999-04-23  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-24  0:00                           ` Christopher Browne
1999-04-23  0:00                         ` bourguet
1999-04-25  0:00                           ` Geoffrey KEATING
1999-04-25  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-25  0:00                               ` EGCS & GNAT Was (Re: GNAT versions) David Starner
1999-04-26  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-26  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-26  0:00                               ` GNAT versions ( was :Ada compiler for PC?) Geoffrey KEATING
     [not found]                             ` <7fua23$fgh$1@nnrp1 <37234dca.a509d0d9@aasaa.ofe.org>
1999-04-26  0:00                               ` EGCS & GNAT Was (Re: GNAT versions) Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-26  0:00                             ` GNAT versions ( was :Ada compiler for PC?) bourguet
1999-04-24  0:00                       ` Ronald Cole
1999-04-22  0:00                 ` dennison
1999-04-21  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-20  0:00       ` Ada compiler for PC? Tom Moran
1999-04-17  0:00 ` Steven Hovater
1999-04-18  0:00 ` Wilhelm Spickermann
     [not found] ` <7fua23$fgh$1@nnrp1 <37234dca.a <1999Apr25.201259.1@eisner>
1999-04-25  0:00   ` EGCS & GNAT Was (Re: GNAT versions) Leslie Mikesell
1999-04-26  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-26  0:00     ` Larry Kilgallen [this message]
1999-04-26  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-04  0:00         ` Mike Stump
1999-05-05  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
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