* fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en fran�ais du langage Ada @ 1997-01-21 0:00 Jerome Desquilbet 1997-01-21 0:00 ` Grave Xavier ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 24+ messages in thread From: Jerome Desquilbet @ 1997-01-21 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Bonjour, Je constate un trafic quasiment nul sur fr.comp.lang.ada depuis sa r�cente cr�ation. Aussi me permets-je de rappeler son existence. Merci, J�r�me. ______________________________________________________________________ Jerome Desquilbet jDesquilbet@Rational.COM ' ^ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en fran�ais du langage Ada 1997-01-21 0:00 fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en fran�ais du langage Ada Jerome Desquilbet @ 1997-01-21 0:00 ` Grave Xavier 1997-01-24 0:00 ` Antoine Leca 1997-01-21 0:00 ` Do-While Jones 1997-01-22 0:00 ` Peter Hermann 2 siblings, 1 reply; 24+ messages in thread From: Grave Xavier @ 1997-01-21 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) je n'arrive pas a joindre ce newsgroup donc je me rabat sur la version anglaise. -- xavier@virgoa4.in2p3.fr De chacun selon ses forces, a chacun selon ses besoins. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en fran�ais du langage Ada 1997-01-21 0:00 ` Grave Xavier @ 1997-01-24 0:00 ` Antoine Leca 0 siblings, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread From: Antoine Leca @ 1997-01-24 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Grave Xavier �crivit : � � je n'arrive pas a joindre ce newsgroup donc je me rabat � sur la version anglaise. � Je ne suis que fr.comp.lang.ada (sur une connexion RTC), donc tu vois que tu as quand m�me r�ussis � �crire dedans ;-). [I only read fr.comp.lang.ada, so you've really wrote in it ;-)] Ceci dit, mon administrateur n'a plus de place sur son serveur, donc il a refus� de cr�er tous les nouveaux groupes tant qu'on ne lui livrait pas son nouveau disque dur. :-( Sun, fais vite... Antoine ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en fran�ais du langage Ada 1997-01-21 0:00 fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en fran�ais du langage Ada Jerome Desquilbet 1997-01-21 0:00 ` Grave Xavier @ 1997-01-21 0:00 ` Do-While Jones 1997-01-21 0:00 ` French Messages (was: fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en frangais...) Larry Kilgallen ` (5 more replies) 1997-01-22 0:00 ` Peter Hermann 2 siblings, 6 replies; 24+ messages in thread From: Do-While Jones @ 1997-01-21 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --] [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1176 bytes --] In article <32E48C50.59E2@Rational.COM> Jerome Desquilbet <jDesquilbet@Rational.COM> writes: >Bonjour, > >Je constate un trafic quasiment nul sur fr.comp.lang.ada depuis sa >r�cente cr�ation. Aussi me permets-je de rappeler son existence. > >Merci, > > J�r�me. > >______________________________________________________________________ >Jerome Desquilbet jDesquilbet@Rational.COM > ' ^ There apparently isn't much traffic on fr.comp.lang.ada. This might be because some newsreaders don't carry non-English newsgroups. Mine doesn't. (I've asked for fr.comp.lang.ada, but our system administrator doesn't know how to get it.) Do the English-speaking subscribers of comp.lang.ada object to occasional messages in French on comp.lang.ada? Would it be better to set up a mailing list, Equipe_Ada, similar to Team_Ada, instead? Do-While Jones -- +--------------------------------+ | Know Ada | | [Ada's Portrait] | | Will Travel | | wire do_while@ridgecrest.ca.us | +--------------------------------+ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* French Messages (was: fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en frangais...) 1997-01-21 0:00 ` Do-While Jones @ 1997-01-21 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen 1997-01-22 0:00 ` Arthur Evans Jr ` (2 more replies) 1997-01-22 0:00 ` fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en fran�ais du langage Ada Philip Brashear ` (4 subsequent siblings) 5 siblings, 3 replies; 24+ messages in thread From: Larry Kilgallen @ 1997-01-21 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <5c2ks7$dm7@ash.ridgecrest.ca.us>, do_while@lo-pan.ridgecrest.ca.us (Do-While Jones) writes: > There apparently isn't much traffic on fr.comp.lang.ada. This might be > because some newsreaders don't carry non-English newsgroups. Mine > doesn't. (I've asked for fr.comp.lang.ada, but our system administrator > doesn't know how to get it.) > > Do the English-speaking subscribers of comp.lang.ada object to occasional > messages in French on comp.lang.ada? To me it is just as annoying as MAKE MONEY FAST scams. Although I will presume that all the material in French is valid discussions regarding Ada, the result for those of us who do not speak French is exactly the same as if someone had combined the Ada newsgroup with the Model-Railroading newsgroup. Certainly this is not the separation-of-content envisioned in the NNTP design. > Would it be better to set up a mailing list, Equipe_Ada, similar to > Team_Ada, instead? If the root problem is news sites not passing French Ada through, then that problem should be addressed. If they have a legitimate argument that traffic is too low to justify carrying the newsgroup then a mailing list would be in order. That is my attitude. I would expect exactly a corresponding response if I suggested carrying English Ada messages in the French Ada newsgroup (or the French Model-Railroading group, for that matter). Larry Kilgallen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: French Messages (was: fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en frangais...) 1997-01-21 0:00 ` French Messages (was: fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en frangais...) Larry Kilgallen @ 1997-01-22 0:00 ` Arthur Evans Jr 1997-01-23 0:00 ` Jerome Desquilbet 1997-01-30 0:00 ` Keith Thompson 2 siblings, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread From: Arthur Evans Jr @ 1997-01-22 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) do_while@lo-pan.ridgecrest.ca.us (Do-While Jones) writes: > Do the English-speaking subscribers of comp.lang.ada object to > occasional messages in French on comp.lang.ada? Then kilgallen@eisner.decus.org (Larry Kilgallen) responded: > To me it is just as annoying as MAKE MONEY FAST scams. I disagree with Kilgallen. As long as there are only a few such messagews (and IMHO present traffic is well below threshhold), I see no objection. These messages are quite obvious from the subject line so that I can easily skip them. If there gets to be a lot of this traffic, then it is right and appropriate for it to move to its own news group. In the interim, though, such traffic is welcome here. > If the root problem is news sites not passing French Ada through, > then that problem should be addressed. I agree. Art Evans Arthur Evans Jr, PhD Ada Consulting evans@evans.pgh.pa.us ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: French Messages (was: fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en frangais...) 1997-01-21 0:00 ` French Messages (was: fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en frangais...) Larry Kilgallen 1997-01-22 0:00 ` Arthur Evans Jr @ 1997-01-23 0:00 ` Jerome Desquilbet 1997-01-23 0:00 ` Carl Bowman [not found] ` <5ca6h1INN7el@maz4.sma.ch> 1997-01-30 0:00 ` Keith Thompson 2 siblings, 2 replies; 24+ messages in thread From: Jerome Desquilbet @ 1997-01-23 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Larry Kilgallen Sorry for my initial posting in French. As I said in my initial post, fr.comp.lang.ada is simply a recent group (about two weeks old), and that's enough to explain the low traffic. I just wanted to re-announce its creation to the Ada French community. French Ada fans give a great contribution to comp.lang.ada, answering questions or participating to debates. I don't think that seeing from time to time messages in French, German or Spanish is such a big deal. J�r�me.. PS: my news reader is hosted by Rational, CA, and I have no problem to get news from the fr.* hierarchy. ______________________________________________________________________ Jerome Desquilbet jDesquilbet@Rational.COM ' ^ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: French Messages (was: fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en frangais...) 1997-01-23 0:00 ` Jerome Desquilbet @ 1997-01-23 0:00 ` Carl Bowman [not found] ` <5ca6h1INN7el@maz4.sma.ch> 1 sibling, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread From: Carl Bowman @ 1997-01-23 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --] [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1135 bytes --] In article <32E72A2C.3F54@Rational.COM>, Jerome Desquilbet <jDesquilbet@Rational.COM> wrote: >Sorry for my initial posting in French. > >As I said in my initial post, fr.comp.lang.ada is simply a recent group >(about two weeks old), and that's enough to explain the low traffic. >I just wanted to re-announce its creation to the Ada French community. > >French Ada fans give a great contribution to comp.lang.ada, answering >questions or participating to debates. > >I don't think that seeing from time to time messages in French, German >or Spanish is such a big deal. > > J�r�me.. > >PS: my news reader is hosted by Rational, CA, and I have no problem to >get news from the fr.* hierarchy. > >______________________________________________________________________ >Jerome Desquilbet jDesquilbet@Rational.COM > ' ^ I find myself interested in the other language posts. I can often understand the French and Spanish. Does anyone know of a translator we can use that will translate the English, French, German, and Spanish texts? Carl Bowman Ada Information Clearinghouse ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
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* Re: French Messages (was: fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en frangais...) [not found] ` <5ca6h1INN7el@maz4.sma.ch> @ 1997-01-27 0:00 ` J-P. Rosen 1997-01-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar 0 siblings, 1 reply; 24+ messages in thread From: J-P. Rosen @ 1997-01-27 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) lga@sma.ch (Laurent Gasser) wrote: >Moreover, the overall moderate traffic on comp.lang.ada do not justify >a splitting in many branches (compilers, tasks, ...) and even less in >many (human) languages. We need concentration of forces at the moment, >no diversification. There was a poll for the creation of fr.comp.lang.ada, that came out with an overwhelming "Yes". It means that there is a significant amount of french speaking people who do think that it is useful. And you could be surprised, as I am quite often, with the number of professionnal programmers whose english is very poor... Not to blame them. Just to tell that there IS room for a french speaking Ada newsgroup +------------------------------------o-------------------------------------+ | J-P. Rosen | Rosen.Adalog@wanadoo.fr | | ADALOG - 27 avenue de Verdun | Tel: +33 1 46 45 51 12 | | 92170 Vanves - FRANCE | Fax: +33 1 46 45 52 49 | +------------------------------------o-------------------------------------+ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: French Messages (was: fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en frangais...) 1997-01-27 0:00 ` J-P. Rosen @ 1997-01-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar 1997-01-27 0:00 ` Michael Feldman 0 siblings, 1 reply; 24+ messages in thread From: Robert Dewar @ 1997-01-27 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Note that in Mike's contribution on the French issue, he was considering what *he* wanted, but it is really more appropriate to consider what the French speaking Ada programmers want. The vote on the formation of the French group makes it clear that they disagree with Mike's desire to have all the messages on one group. This is easy to understand, if you don't want to read the English messages, then having the few French messages buried among hundreds of English messages is going to be very annoying! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: French Messages (was: fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en frangais...) 1997-01-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar @ 1997-01-27 0:00 ` Michael Feldman 0 siblings, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread From: Michael Feldman @ 1997-01-27 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <dewar.854367129@merv>, Robert Dewar <dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu> wrote: >Note that in Mike's contribution on the French issue, he was considering >what *he* wanted, but it is really more appropriate to consider what the >French speaking Ada programmers want. The vote on the formation of the >French group makes it clear that they disagree with Mike's desire to have >all the messages on one group. Yes, you are right, Robert. That's fine, if that's what they want. OTOH, I can assure my colleagues in other countries that they are also welcome here, and - if they choose to cross-post a French (or German, or whatever) message here, I will not flame them or try to drive them out. Others may disagree, of course; that's life on the Net. >This is easy to understand, if you don't want to read the English messages, >then having the few French messages buried among hundreds of English messages >is going to be very annoying! Indeed. I still hope that if a non-English message turns up here, we will be courteous enough to either 1. answer in the original language if we can 2. answer in English if we can read but don't feel comfortable writing the other language 3. keep quiet. Mike Feldman ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: French Messages (was: fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en frangais...) 1997-01-21 0:00 ` French Messages (was: fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en frangais...) Larry Kilgallen 1997-01-22 0:00 ` Arthur Evans Jr 1997-01-23 0:00 ` Jerome Desquilbet @ 1997-01-30 0:00 ` Keith Thompson 2 siblings, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread From: Keith Thompson @ 1997-01-30 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) In <1997Jan21.150153.1@eisner> kilgallen@eisner.decus.org (Larry Kilgallen) writes: [...] > Although I will presume that all the material in French is valid > discussions regarding Ada, the result for those of us who do not > speak French is exactly the same as if someone had combined the > Ada newsgroup with the Model-Railroading newsgroup. Certainly this > is not the separation-of-content envisioned in the NNTP design. I suspect more readers of comp.lang.ada will understand a typical article in French than an article about freezing rules in English. 8-)} 8-)} -- Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst@aonix.com <http://www.aonix.com> <*> TeleSo^H^H^H^H^H^H Alsy^H^H^H^H Thomson Softw^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H Aonix 10251 Vista Sorrento Parkway, Suite 300, San Diego, CA, USA, 92121-2706 "SPOON!" -- The Tick ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en fran�ais du langage Ada 1997-01-21 0:00 ` Do-While Jones 1997-01-21 0:00 ` French Messages (was: fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en frangais...) Larry Kilgallen @ 1997-01-22 0:00 ` Philip Brashear 1997-01-25 0:00 ` Michael Feldman 1997-01-24 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony ` (3 subsequent siblings) 5 siblings, 1 reply; 24+ messages in thread From: Philip Brashear @ 1997-01-22 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) As an English-speaking/reading person, I certainly have no objection to seeing French (or German, or Swahili, or even my native Hillbilly) postings. I'd hate to think that I was so language-biased that I couldn't recognize the worth of other forms of expression. (Now, when it comes to software engineering languages, as opposed to natural languages, that's a whole different ball game!) Phil Brashear ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en fran�ais du langage Ada 1997-01-22 0:00 ` fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en fran�ais du langage Ada Philip Brashear @ 1997-01-25 0:00 ` Michael Feldman 1997-01-26 0:00 ` Robert Dewar 0 siblings, 1 reply; 24+ messages in thread From: Michael Feldman @ 1997-01-25 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <5c54p8$oov@ns1.sw-eng.falls-church.va.us>, Philip Brashear <brashear@ns1.sw-eng.falls-church.va.us> wrote: >As an English-speaking/reading person, I certainly have no objection to >seeing French (or German, or Swahili, or even my native Hillbilly) postings. >I'd hate to think that I was so language-biased >that I couldn't recognize the worth of other forms of expression. >(Now, when it comes to software engineering languages, as opposed to >natural languages, that's a whole different ball game!) I second Phil's emotion. One of the very nice things about the Internet is its international flavor. Even though it started here in the US, it is truly worldwide now, and that is its charm. I have NO objection to seeing articles posted in other languages. I read French and Dutch fluently and might even try to write some in followup. There is no rule that requires news posts to be in English, and anyone who'd discourage other languages is just being xenophobic (IMHO). If you don;t understand the language of a post, that's what the "next message" key is for! In any case, I am really saddened by the growing trend to set up (natural-) language-specific groups for French, German, and whatever. Why should we trake a wonderfully worldwide community and balkanize it? Silly, IMHO! Mike Feldman ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Michael B. Feldman - chair, SIGAda Education Working Group Professor, Dept. of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science The George Washington University - Washington, DC 20052 USA 202-994-5919 (voice) - 202-994-0227 (fax) http://www.seas.gwu.edu/faculty/mfeldman ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Pork is all that money the government gives the other guys. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ada on the WWW: www.acm.org/sigada/education or www.adahome.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en fran�ais du langage Ada 1997-01-25 0:00 ` Michael Feldman @ 1997-01-26 0:00 ` Robert Dewar 1997-01-26 0:00 ` Michael Feldman 0 siblings, 1 reply; 24+ messages in thread From: Robert Dewar @ 1997-01-26 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Mike says "I have NO objection to seeing articles posted in other languages. I read French and Dutch fluently and might even try to write some in followup. There is no rule that requires news posts to be in English, and anyone who'd discourage other languages is just being xenophobic (IMHO). If you don;t understand the language of a post, that's what the "next message" key is for! In any case, I am really saddened by the growing trend to set up (natural-) language-specific groups for French, German, and whatever. Why should we trake a wonderfully worldwide community and balkanize it?" I strongly disagree. Fine, Mike you read Dutch fluently, but a post in Dutch is incomprehensible to 99% of the readers, and hence noise. The common appeal to the delete key is unconvincing, if 90% of the messages on a newsgroup become complete noise, people would simply stop contributing. Furthermore, you will find (look what has happened in other groups) that those who contribute most valuable posts are the ones whose time is valuable enough not to put up with the noise. Breaking down the traffic into language specific groups makes perfect sense, and is not in any way xenophobic and does not constitute balkanization. You might as well argue that there should be only one giant newsgroup in the world, and that those wanting information on Ada can simply delete messages more suitable to alt.startrek.sex.fetish. The reason we split up newsgroups is to increase the probability that messages will be of interest to those who read the newsgroup. Often it is a bit tricky to deal with distinguishing subject material, but language makes a *perfect* criterion for splitting up groups. You subscribe (and hopefully participate) in those groups for which you understand the language. Mike, you can subscribe to the English, French and Dutch newsgroups, but it seems like it would be a complete waste of time for you to see messages in Japanese, so you simply do not select this group. Eventually it might be nice to have a different mechanism available, for example, coding of messages by language with automatic filtering, or even automatic translation (which would of course also be facilitated by language coding, and might be more practical than general translation, because of the limited subject domain). But for now, separate newsgroups is what makes sense. I realize that current trendy political correctness leads in the direction of thinking that it is frightfully liberal and tolerant to welcome mixed languages on newsgroups, but from a pragmatic sense it is simply silly. For those who like to see messages in foreign languages, simply subscribe to all the groups in sight! Mike did you subscribe to the French Ada group? If not, why not? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en fran�ais du langage Ada 1997-01-26 0:00 ` Robert Dewar @ 1997-01-26 0:00 ` Michael Feldman 0 siblings, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread From: Michael Feldman @ 1997-01-26 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <dewar.854294234@merv>, Robert Dewar <dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu> wrote: >Mike says [snip] >You might as well argue that there should be only one giant newsgroup >in the world, and that those wanting information on Ada can simply delete >messages more suitable to alt.startrek.sex.fetish. Not so. The groups are organized by interest, not by natural language. [snip] > Mike, you can subscribe to the English, French and Dutch >newsgroups, but it seems like it would be a complete waste of time >for you to see messages in Japanese, so you simply do not select this >group. I disagree. I'd much prefer to see those messages here. [snip] >But for now, separate newsgroups is what makes sense. I realize that >current trendy political correctness leads in the direction of thinking >that it is frightfully liberal and tolerant to welcome mixed languages >on newsgroups, but from a pragmatic sense it is simply silly. You and I will simply have to agree to disagree here. You may think it's silly; I don't. It's got nothing to do with PC; I am as much entitled to state my preferences, Robert, as you are yours. I prefer to see one big, happy Ada family, not a bunch of little natural-language-centric fragments. >For those who like to see messages in foreign languages, simply subscribe >to all the groups in sight! Mike did you subscribe to the French Ada >group? If not, why not? Because I'd prefer to see the Ada community - which is small enough, heaven knows, getting together in one place. I'd much rather see the messages here. It's easy enough to delete a message whose subject line is in a language you don't (wish to try to) understand. There's plenty of noise on this group generated by English writers. Once we have an agreeably high S/N ratio (we do not now, IMHO), we can worry about the odd post that (gasp) arrives in another language. This is my last word on this subject. As far as I am concerned, posts are welcome in any language as long as they are on the subject of _Ada_. Robert is, of course, welcome to disagreee. That's the nice part of the Net newsgroups. They are everybody's, and nobody's, property. Mike Feldman ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Michael B. Feldman - chair, SIGAda Education Working Group Professor, Dept. of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science The George Washington University - Washington, DC 20052 USA 202-994-5919 (voice) - 202-994-0227 (fax) http://www.seas.gwu.edu/faculty/mfeldman ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Pork is all that money the government gives the other guys. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ada on the WWW: www.acm.org/sigada/education or www.adahome.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en fran�ais du langage Ada 1997-01-21 0:00 ` Do-While Jones 1997-01-21 0:00 ` French Messages (was: fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en frangais...) Larry Kilgallen 1997-01-22 0:00 ` fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en fran�ais du langage Ada Philip Brashear @ 1997-01-24 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony 1997-01-27 0:00 ` John M. Mills 1997-01-24 0:00 ` Ted Dennison ` (2 subsequent siblings) 5 siblings, 1 reply; 24+ messages in thread From: Jon S Anthony @ 1997-01-24 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <5c2ks7$dm7@ash.ridgecrest.ca.us> do_while@lo-pan.ridgecrest.ca.us (Do-While Jones) writes: > Do the English-speaking subscribers of comp.lang.ada object to occasional > messages in French on comp.lang.ada? Not this one. /Jon -- Jon Anthony Organon Motives, Inc. Belmont, MA 02178 617.484.3383 jsa@organon.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en fran�ais du langage Ada 1997-01-24 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony @ 1997-01-27 0:00 ` John M. Mills 0 siblings, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread From: John M. Mills @ 1997-01-27 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) In <JSA.97Jan24184725@alexandria> jsa@alexandria (Jon S Anthony) writes: >In article <5c2ks7$dm7@ash.ridgecrest.ca.us> do_while@lo-pan.ridgecrest.ca.us (Do-While Jones) writes: >> Do the English-speaking subscribers of comp.lang.ada object to occasional >> messages in French on comp.lang.ada? >Not this one. Moi, non plus. If there gets to be a problem with multi-lingual posting, we can try to solve it. Till then, no huhu. (IMHO) -- John M. Mills, Senior Research Engineer -- john.m.mills@gtri.gatech.edu Georgia Tech Research Institute, Georgia Tech, Atlanta, GA 30332-0834 Phone contacts: 404.894.0151 (voice), 770.528.7083 (FAX) Why are so many Linux users named "root"? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en fran�ais du langage Ada 1997-01-21 0:00 ` Do-While Jones ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 1997-01-24 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony @ 1997-01-24 0:00 ` Ted Dennison 1997-01-25 0:00 ` Robert Dewar 1997-01-29 0:00 ` Peter Hart 5 siblings, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread From: Ted Dennison @ 1997-01-24 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Do-While Jones wrote: > > Do the English-speaking subscribers of comp.lang.ada object to occasional > messages in French on comp.lang.ada? > I do. But it isn't as bad as all the crossposted comp.lang.* flamewars, which there is *nothing* we can do to stop. -- T.E.D. | Work - mailto:dennison@escmail.orl.lmco.com | | Home - mailto:dennison@iag.net | | URL - http://www.iag.net/~dennison | ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en fran�ais du langage Ada 1997-01-21 0:00 ` Do-While Jones ` (3 preceding siblings ...) 1997-01-24 0:00 ` Ted Dennison @ 1997-01-25 0:00 ` Robert Dewar 1997-01-29 0:00 ` Peter Hart 5 siblings, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread From: Robert Dewar @ 1997-01-25 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) i"Do the English-speaking subscribers of comp.lang.ada object to occasional messages in French on comp.lang.ada?" It is really much better to work on getting the fr group active, for most readers of CLA, any messages in other than english raise the noise-to-signal ratio. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en fran�ais du langage Ada 1997-01-21 0:00 ` Do-While Jones ` (4 preceding siblings ...) 1997-01-25 0:00 ` Robert Dewar @ 1997-01-29 0:00 ` Peter Hart 1997-01-29 0:00 ` Michael Feldman 5 siblings, 1 reply; 24+ messages in thread From: Peter Hart @ 1997-01-29 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) do_while@lo-pan.ridgecrest.ca.us (Do-While Jones) wrote: >Do the English-speaking subscribers of comp.lang.ada object to occasional >messages in French on comp.lang.ada? > I'd have no objection personally, but would suggest, as a courtesy to people who don't understand french, or indeed any other language, that some 'standard' subject prefix was picked to allow easy 'kill'ing: [fr]:, for instance (or similar for other languages). -Z. 'Waste Please' - Exhortation on bins in DisneyWorld.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Peter Hart: zeddy@one.net, 106047.2634@compuserve.com. Voice: +1-513-579-9957 135, Garfield Place Apt#423, Cincinnati OH45202, USA. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en fran�ais du langage Ada 1997-01-29 0:00 ` Peter Hart @ 1997-01-29 0:00 ` Michael Feldman 0 siblings, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread From: Michael Feldman @ 1997-01-29 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <32ef5858.6129470@news.one.net>, Peter Hart <zeddy@one.net> wrote: >I'd have no objection personally, but would suggest, as a courtesy to >people who don't understand french, or indeed any other language, that >some 'standard' subject prefix was picked to allow easy 'kill'ing: >[fr]:, for instance (or similar for other languages). This is an excellent compromise! I vote yes! Mike Feldman ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en fran�ais du langage Ada 1997-01-21 0:00 fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en fran�ais du langage Ada Jerome Desquilbet 1997-01-21 0:00 ` Grave Xavier 1997-01-21 0:00 ` Do-While Jones @ 1997-01-22 0:00 ` Peter Hermann 1997-01-23 0:00 ` Gautier 2 siblings, 1 reply; 24+ messages in thread From: Peter Hermann @ 1997-01-22 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --] [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 516 bytes --] Jerome Desquilbet (jDesquilbet@Rational.COM) wrote: : Je constate un trafic quasiment nul sur fr.comp.lang.ada depuis sa : r�cente cr�ation. Aussi me permets-je de rappeler son existence. En Allemagne le trafic du mail-list teamada@cci.de est quasi mort :-( Et, il n'existe pas un newsgroup de.comp.lang.ada -- Peter Hermann Tel:+49-711-685-3611 Fax:3758 ph@csv.ica.uni-stuttgart.de Pfaffenwaldring 27, 70569 Stuttgart Uni Computeranwendungen Team Ada: "C'mon people let the world begin" (Paul McCartney) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en fran�ais du langage Ada 1997-01-22 0:00 ` Peter Hermann @ 1997-01-23 0:00 ` Gautier 0 siblings, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread From: Gautier @ 1997-01-23 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --] [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 387 bytes --] Peter Hermann: > Jerome Desquilbet (jDesquilbet@Rational.COM) wrote: > : Je constate un trafic quasiment nul sur fr.comp.lang.ada depuis sa > : r�cente cr�ation. Aussi me permets-je de rappeler son existence. > > En Allemagne le trafic du mail-list teamada@cci.de est quasi mort :-( > Et, il n'existe pas un newsgroup de.comp.lang.ada Et puis, les niouzes, c'est plus rigolo. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
end of thread, other threads:[~1997-01-30 0:00 UTC | newest] Thread overview: 24+ messages (download: mbox.gz / follow: Atom feed) -- links below jump to the message on this page -- 1997-01-21 0:00 fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en fran�ais du langage Ada Jerome Desquilbet 1997-01-21 0:00 ` Grave Xavier 1997-01-24 0:00 ` Antoine Leca 1997-01-21 0:00 ` Do-While Jones 1997-01-21 0:00 ` French Messages (was: fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en frangais...) Larry Kilgallen 1997-01-22 0:00 ` Arthur Evans Jr 1997-01-23 0:00 ` Jerome Desquilbet 1997-01-23 0:00 ` Carl Bowman [not found] ` <5ca6h1INN7el@maz4.sma.ch> 1997-01-27 0:00 ` J-P. Rosen 1997-01-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar 1997-01-27 0:00 ` Michael Feldman 1997-01-30 0:00 ` Keith Thompson 1997-01-22 0:00 ` fr.comp.lang.ada, pour discuter en fran�ais du langage Ada Philip Brashear 1997-01-25 0:00 ` Michael Feldman 1997-01-26 0:00 ` Robert Dewar 1997-01-26 0:00 ` Michael Feldman 1997-01-24 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony 1997-01-27 0:00 ` John M. Mills 1997-01-24 0:00 ` Ted Dennison 1997-01-25 0:00 ` Robert Dewar 1997-01-29 0:00 ` Peter Hart 1997-01-29 0:00 ` Michael Feldman 1997-01-22 0:00 ` Peter Hermann 1997-01-23 0:00 ` Gautier
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