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From: kilgallen@eisner.decus.org (Larry Kilgallen)
Subject: Re: Ada and Mac (Was: New version of AppletMagic)
Date: 1996/10/09
Date: 1996-10-09T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1996Oct9.122738.1@eisner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 53g342INNks2@maz4.sma.ch


In article <53g342INNks2@maz4.sma.ch>, lga@unconfigured.xvnews.domain (Laurent Gasser) writes:

> Having a GNAT delivering PowerMac stand-alone applications is what counts.  To me 
> and certainly to a couple of others.  

I understand that your needs may differ from mine...

> I am willing to contribute and pay for further devlopments of GNAT though.
> But today, the offer looks strange:
> 
>   You can download GNAT (essentially at null cost)
>   to make it run in a shell (which costs $700).
>   
> Compare this with commercial offers of compilers: Metrowerks offers for $400
> a subscription for three releases to C/C++, Pascal, Java for Mac 68K and PPC, 
> and Windows, with CodeWarrior IDE and MPW.
> 
> That's why I am waiting for a "stripped down" MachTen environment.  The product
> MachTen as it is now deserve its price.  The usage I plan to make of it 
> (programming shell for GNAT) does not.

...while I wait for something not limited to PowerMac and don't care
so much about the price. This fragmentation of the market is
what makes pervasive availability of Ada compilers an unattractive
business proposition.  Unfortunately, I fear that if there were
many new vendors entering the space they might all want to do a
Microsoft Windows version.  Thus I fear there is no hidden rule
of economics which naturally gravitates toward my wish of good
supported Ada compilers everywhere.

While Ada may alter our environment when it comes to compiling
and debugging, it has not changed the economics of acquiring
software tools.

Larry Kilgallen




  reply	other threads:[~1996-10-09  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1996-09-27  0:00 Ada to byte-code compiler works as advertised Mike Stark
1996-09-28  0:00 ` Ray Blaak
1996-09-28  0:00   ` Mike Stark
1996-09-30  0:00 ` Vince Del Vecchio
1996-10-03  0:00 ` New version of AppletMagic (was Re: Ada to byte-code compiler ...) Vince Del Vecchio
1996-10-04  0:00   ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-05  0:00     ` Tucker Taft
1996-10-06  0:00     ` Matthew Heaney
1996-10-06  0:00       ` Ada on the Mac (was: AppletMagic stuff) Michael Feldman
1996-10-07  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-07  0:00           ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-07  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-09  0:00               ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-08  0:00             ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-10-09  0:00               ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-08  0:00           ` Hosting Ada on Mac (Was: Ada on the Mac) Laurent Gasser
1996-10-09  0:00             ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-08  0:00           ` Ada on the Mac (was: AppletMagic stuff) Robert Dewar
1996-10-08  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-09  0:00               ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-09  0:00             ` jim hopper
1996-10-08  0:00       ` Ada and Mac (Was: New version of AppletMagic) Stan Shebs
1996-10-08  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-10  0:00         ` jim hopper
1996-10-08  0:00       ` Laurent Gasser
1996-10-08  0:00         ` jim hopper
1996-10-08  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-09  0:00             ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-09  0:00               ` Matthew Heaney
1996-10-11  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-11  0:00                   ` Matthew Heaney
1996-10-10  0:00               ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-09  0:00           ` Laurent Gasser
1996-10-09  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen [this message]
1996-10-15  0:00         ` Tucker Taft
1996-10-10  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-10  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-11  0:00         ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-14  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-16  0:00         ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-17  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-17  0:00             ` jim hopper
1996-10-17  0:00             ` jim hopper
1996-10-17  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-18  0:00                 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-21  0:00                   ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-21  0:00                     ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-22  0:00                       ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-23  0:00                       ` Steve Wall
1996-10-22  0:00                     ` Tom Halliley
1996-10-23  0:00                       ` Jim Easterbrook
1996-10-23  0:00                       ` Anita Holmgren
1996-10-24  0:00                         ` Tom Halliley
1996-10-21  0:00             ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-17  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-21  0:00         ` Michael Feldman
1996-10-08  0:00     ` New version of AppletMagic (was Re: Ada to byte-code compiler Dr Paul Gorman
1996-10-09  0:00 ` Ada on the Mac (was: AppletMagic stuff) Stan Shebs
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