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From: shang@corp.mot.com (David L. Shang)
Subject: Re: Eiffel and Java
Date: 1996/11/04
Date: 1996-11-04T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1996Nov4.142715.5411@schbbs.mot.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: JSA.96Nov1182422@alexandria


In article <JSA.96Nov1182422@alexandria> jsa@alexandria (Jon S Anthony) writes:
> In article <1996Oct31.162218.8386@schbbs.mot.com> shang@corp.mot.com (David  
L. Shang) writes:
> 
> > No. Java supports only top-down class hierarchy construction
> > (from superclass to subclasses), but not bottom-up: from
> > subclasses to superclass.
> 
> But in general it is _trivial_ to do in Ada.  Note that "inheritance"
> aspects need not (and typically will not) even enter into the
> "equation" since the functionality is provided by separating the
> "module" aspect of class from the "type" aspect and allowing the
> module aspect to have separate spec. and impl.
> 

Don't you think that the Ada's code is rather complicated and
involves too many concepts to describe things clearly?

Transframe's version:

        use Stack, Queue;
 	class StackOrQueue #(MemberType: type of any)
 			is super Stack, Queue
 	{
 		function push(MemberType);
 		function pop:MemberType;
 	}

	use StackOrQueue;
	function MyTestCode()
	{ 
 	    x: StackOrQueue;
 	    if (some_condition) x = Stack#(T1)(); else x:=Queue#(T2)();
 	    y: any = GetObject();
 	    assume (y is x#.MemberType) x.push(y); otherwise do_nothing();
	    ....
	}
 
Your Ada's Version:

	with Stacks;  -- Generic
	with Queues;  -- Generic
	generic
	     type Any_Obj is tagged private;
	package Stack_Or_Queue
	 
	     package S is new Stacks(Any_Obj);
	     package Q is new Queues(Any_Obj);
	 
	     type Any is access all Any_Obj'Class;
	     type Stack_Queue ( S : access S.Stack; Q : access Q.Queue )
			is private;
	
	     procedure Push (Element : Any;  Onto : Stack_Queue);
	     function  Pop  (SQ : Stack_Queue) return Any;

	     private
	         type Stack_Queue ...
	
	end Stack_Or_Queue;
	 
	with Stack_Or_Queue;
	    package SQ_T1 is new Stack_Or_Queue(T1);
	         package ST1 renames SQ_T1.S;
	    package SQ_T2 is new Stack_Or_Queue(T2);
	         package QT2 renames SQ_T2.Q;
	    S : ST1;
	    Q : QT2;
	    if (some condition) then
	         declare
	             X : SQ_T1(S, null);  -- X is a stack of T1s
	             Y : SQ_T1.Any := Get_Object;
	         begin
	             push(Y, Onto => X);
	         end;
	     else
	         declare
	             X : SQ_T2(null, Q);  -- X is a queue of T2s
	             Y : SQ_T2.Any := Get_Object;
	         begin
	             ...
	     end if;

And the above Ada's code is still not equivalent to Transframe's
code. There is no polymophism on the generic class StackOrQueue
in Ada's code: the variable "X" is not polymorphic, and is only
valid within a local scope. What happen if I want a function to
return the value of "X" for other people to use? For example:

	use StackOrQueue;
	function CreateStackOrQueue(some_condition: bool): StackOrQueue
	{ 
 	    x: StackOrQueue;
 	    if (some_condition) x := Stack#(T1)(); else x:=Queue#(T2)();
 	    y: any= GetObject();
	    while (y) 
 	    {
		assume (y is x#.MemberType) x.push(y);
		otherwise do_nothing();
		y:= GetObject();
	    }
	    return x;
	}


David Shang




  parent reply	other threads:[~1996-11-04  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 168+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1996-10-27  0:00 Eiffel and Java Vincent WEBER
1996-10-27  0:00 ` Jean-Michel P. Decombe
1996-10-28  0:00   ` Alexandre Oliva
1996-10-28  0:00   ` David Hanley
1996-10-28  0:00     ` Matt Kennel
1996-10-28  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-31  0:00     ` Doug Marker
1996-10-29  0:00   ` Chris Trimble
1996-10-31  0:00     ` Doug Marker
1996-10-31  0:00   ` David Bennett
1996-10-28  0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-30  0:00   ` Ronald Cole
1996-10-28  0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1996-10-29  0:00   ` Vincent WEBER
1996-10-31  0:00     ` James McKim
1996-11-01  0:00       ` Matthew Heaney
1996-11-04  0:00         ` James McKim
1996-10-30  0:00   ` Don Harrison
1996-10-31  0:00     ` James McKim
1996-11-04  0:00       ` Don Harrison
1996-11-23  0:00       ` Van Snyder
1996-10-30  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-01  0:00     ` Eiffel and Java + Ada dispatching Jean-Marc Jezequel
1996-10-31  0:00   ` Eiffel and Java Joachim Durchholz
1996-11-01  0:00   ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-11-02  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-02  0:00   ` Eiffel and Java + Ada dispatching Jon S Anthony
1996-11-03  0:00   ` Eiffel and Java Joachim Durchholz
1996-11-05  0:00   ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-10-29  0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-10-29  0:00   ` Fergus Henderson
1996-10-30  0:00     ` Don Harrison
1996-10-30  0:00       ` Fergus Henderson
1996-10-31  0:00     ` David L. Shang
1996-11-01  0:00       ` Matt Kennel
1996-11-04  0:00         ` David L. Shang
1996-11-05  0:00           ` Matt Kennel
1996-11-06  0:00             ` David L. Shang
1996-11-04  0:00       ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-11-01  0:00     ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-02  0:00       ` Fergus Henderson
1996-11-04  0:00       ` David L. Shang [this message]
1996-11-05  0:00         ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-02  0:00     ` Darko BUDOR
1996-11-02  0:00       ` Fergus Henderson
1996-11-03  0:00         ` Matt Kennel
1996-11-03  0:00         ` Darko BUDOR
1996-11-03  0:00     ` Matthias Ernst
1996-11-03  0:00     ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-05  0:00     ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-10  0:00     ` Marcos F. F. de Macedo
1996-11-11  0:00       ` David L. Shang
1996-11-12  0:00         ` Fergus Henderson
1996-11-12  0:00           ` David L. Shang
1996-11-12  0:00             ` David L. Shang
1996-11-16  0:00             ` Fergus Henderson
1996-11-18  0:00               ` David L. Shang
1996-11-18  0:00             ` Kai Quale
1996-11-18  0:00               ` David L. Shang
1996-11-25  0:00                 ` Kai Quale
1996-11-15  0:00         ` Paul Johnson
1996-11-12  0:00       ` Alexander Asteroth
1996-11-11  0:00         ` Marcos F. F. de Macedo
1996-11-12  0:00         ` Benedict A. Gomes
1996-11-12  0:00         ` Matt Kennel
1996-10-29  0:00   ` Eiffel and Java + Ada dispatching Vincent WEBER
1996-10-30  0:00     ` Don Harrison
1996-10-30  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-30  0:00     ` Jean-Marc Jezequel
1996-11-01  0:00       ` Joachim Durchholz
1996-11-01  0:00       ` Don Harrison
1996-10-30  0:00   ` Eiffel and Java David Petrie Stoutamire
1996-10-30  0:00   ` Eiffel and Java + Ada dispatching Jon S Anthony
1996-11-04  0:00     ` Don Harrison
1996-11-04  0:00       ` C to Ada Ali Mirhosseini
1996-11-04  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-04  0:00         ` Matthew Daniel
1996-11-05  0:00       ` Eiffel and Java + Ada dispatching Jon S Anthony
1996-11-05  0:00         ` Don Harrison
1996-11-06  0:00           ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-30  0:00   ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-10-31  0:00   ` Joachim Durchholz
1996-10-31  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-01  0:00     ` Jean-Marc Jezequel
     [not found]     ` <E06F2B.Az7@syd.csa.com.au>
1996-11-01  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-04  0:00         ` Don Harrison
1996-11-05  0:00           ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-02  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-04  0:00         ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-11-05  0:00         ` Don Harrison
1996-11-05  0:00           ` Joachim Durchholz
1996-11-05  0:00           ` Robb Nebbe
1996-11-06  0:00             ` Jean-Marc Jezequel
1996-11-07  0:00               ` Robb Nebbe
1996-11-06  0:00             ` To overload or not to overload (was Eiffel and Java + Ada dispatching) Don Harrison
1996-11-06  0:00               ` Robb Nebbe
1996-11-07  0:00                 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-11-07  0:00                 ` Don Harrison
1996-11-07  0:00                   ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-11  0:00                     ` Don Harrison
1996-11-07  0:00                   ` Juergen Schlegelmilch
1996-11-08  0:00                     ` Don Harrison
1996-11-08  0:00                       ` Don Harrison
1996-11-14  0:00                         ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-14  0:00                     ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-07  0:00                   ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-08  0:00                   ` bill.williams
1996-11-11  0:00                     ` Don Harrison
1996-11-08  0:00             ` Eiffel and Java + Ada dispatching Robert I. Eachus
1996-11-06  0:00           ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-11-08  0:00             ` Don Harrison
1996-11-08  0:00               ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-08  0:00               ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-12  0:00                 ` Don Harrison
1996-11-12  0:00                   ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-13  0:00                     ` Don Harrison
1996-11-13  0:00                       ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-15  0:00                         ` Don Harrison
1996-11-19  0:00                           ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-20  0:00                             ` Don Harrison
1996-11-13  0:00                       ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-14  0:00                         ` Don Harrison
1996-11-12  0:00                   ` Joachim Durchholz
1996-11-15  0:00                     ` Richard Riehle
1996-11-16  0:00                     ` Interfacing contracts (Was: Eiffel and Java + Ada dispatching) Geert Bosch
1996-11-17  0:00                       ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-14  0:00               ` Eiffel and Java + Ada dispatching Robert I. Eachus
1996-11-14  0:00                 ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-15  0:00                 ` Don Harrison
1996-11-15  0:00                   ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-11-19  0:00                     ` Don Harrison
1996-11-18  0:00                       ` Vincent Celier
1996-11-22  0:00                         ` Don Harrison
1996-11-19  0:00                 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-15  0:00               ` portmanteau (was Re: Eiffel and Java + Ada dispatching) Robert I. Eachus
1996-11-07  0:00           ` Eiffel and Java + Ada dispatching Robb Nebbe
1996-11-07  0:00           ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-12  0:00           ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-01  0:00   ` Eiffel and Java Matthias Ernst
1996-11-01  0:00     ` Benedict A. Gomes
1996-11-01  0:00     ` William Clodius
1996-11-02  0:00   ` Eiffel and Java + Ada dispatching Jon S Anthony
1996-11-02  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-04  0:00   ` Eiffel and Java Robert I. Eachus
1996-10-30  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-01  0:00   ` Don Harrison
1996-11-01  0:00     ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-07  0:00       ` Marcos F. F. de Macedo
1996-11-11  0:00         ` Ian Joyner
1996-11-12  0:00         ` Don Harrison
1996-11-13  0:00           ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-11-15  0:00             ` Don Harrison
1996-11-14  0:00           ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-15  0:00             ` Don Harrison
1996-11-19  0:00               ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-21  0:00                 ` Don Harrison
1996-11-12  0:00     ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-31  0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
1996-11-01  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-02  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-03  0:00 ` Eiffel and Java + Ada dispatching Joachim Durchholz
1996-11-04  0:00 ` Eiffel and Java Richard A. O'Keefe
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1996-10-28  0:00 cosc19z5@bayou.uh.edu
     [not found] ` <01bbc7f6$b1c0b7a0$LocalHost@gaijin>
1996-11-01  0:00   ` Ranjan Bagchi
1996-11-01  0:00   ` Alan Lovejoy
1996-11-01  0:00     ` Chris
1996-11-02  0:00 Ell
1996-11-02  0:00 ` traymond
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