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From: nebbe@lglsun.epfl.ch (Robb Nebbe)
Subject: Re: An observation of Ada (may offend)
Date: 20 Mar 1995 09:31:29 GMT
Date: 1995-03-20T09:31:29+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1995Mar20.094745@lglsun.epfl.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: fjm.63.000D29AE@ti.com

In article <fjm.63.000D29AE@ti.com>, fjm@ti.com (Fred J. McCall) writes:
|> 
|> I'm curious; how many of the things on the list are not government related or 
|> regulated?  Is it significantly easier, for example, to get the government to 
|> sign off on aircraft software in part because it happens to be written in Ada 
|> (irrespective of the actual implementation or of the merits of the language)?  
|> That and the few banking applications would seem to me to be the only ones on 
|> your list not run by governments.
|> 
|> Non-myth -- virtually all Ada software is produced for government agencies?

I would guess that a lot of the projects listed are very large and involve
large groups of developers. Many have real-time constraints, are distributed
and involve concurrency. They are not all saftey-critical but many require
a very high level of reliability.

Now, where is the correlation? Governments seem to be naturally involved
in almost all large safety-critical projects. Furthermore it isn't clear
how much government involvement affects the choice of a language. In
the US the government seems to be keen on saying "use Ada" but I don't
think that is always the case outside of the US.

Here in Switzerland they are replacing the signaling software in many
of the train stations (this is more of a station by station approach based
on necessity rather than anything big like replacing all the signaling
software in all the stations). My understanding is that Swiss Federal
Railway doesn't give a hoot in which language the software is written. The
software is in Ada but the choice of a language had nothing to do with
government involvement. Interestingly enough the parent company of the
company doing the project had applied some presure to use C rather than
Ada but this was rejected as being technically unfounded.

Robb Nebbe




  parent reply	other threads:[~1995-03-20  9:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1995-03-12 23:39 An observation of Ada (may offend) Matt Bruce
1995-03-13  0:34 ` David Weller
1995-03-14  4:49 ` Vladimir Vukicevic
1995-03-15 15:39   ` Ada myths (was: An observation of Ada (may offend)) Theodore Dennison
1995-03-17 17:00   ` An observation of Ada (may offend) Michael Feldman
1995-03-17 13:09     ` Fred J. McCall
1995-03-18 20:34       ` Michael Feldman
1995-03-19 22:20         ` Robert Dewar
1995-03-20 17:19           ` Michael Feldman
1995-03-21 21:02             ` Robert Dewar
1995-03-21 23:01             ` Kevin F. Quinn
1995-03-22 12:43             ` Mike Meier
1995-03-20 20:38           ` Kevin F. Quinn
1995-03-21  3:02         ` Michael M. Bishop
1995-03-20  9:31       ` Robb Nebbe [this message]
1995-03-20 20:16       ` Mats Weber
1995-03-22 19:44       ` Stephen McNeill
1995-03-28 14:48       ` Wes Groleau
1995-03-22 17:20     ` Richard G. Hash
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1995-03-17  9:27 R.A.L Williams
1995-03-17 15:23 ` Robb Nebbe
1995-03-17 17:08 ` Norman H. Cohen
1995-03-20  3:23   ` S. Tucker Taft
1995-03-20 10:13   ` Robb Nebbe
1995-03-21 21:05     ` Robert Dewar
1995-03-20 16:15   ` Robert I. Eachus
1995-03-21 19:47     ` Norman H. Cohen
1995-03-22  1:28       ` David Weller
1995-03-23  5:47       ` Robert Dewar
1995-03-23 16:38         ` Robert I. Eachus
1995-03-24 10:46           ` Peter Hermann
1995-03-24 16:52             ` David Weller
1995-03-26  4:03               ` Robert Dewar
1995-03-24 21:33             ` Tucker Taft
1995-03-27 18:58             ` Mark A Biggar
1995-03-24 19:45           ` Garlington KE
1995-03-27 19:58             ` Robert I. Eachus
1995-03-28 16:29               ` Garlington KE
1995-03-28 19:30                 ` Robert I. Eachus
1995-03-28 22:37                   ` Garlington KE
1995-03-29  8:31                   ` Robb Nebbe
1995-03-25 17:58           ` Robert Dewar
1995-03-26  6:20             ` R_Tim_Coslet
1995-03-27 20:38               ` Robert I. Eachus
1995-03-26  3:50           ` celier
     [not found]           ` <3l1lkq$pm6@gnat.csn <3l2o9a$3a1@infomatch.com>
1995-03-27 23:16             ` Robert Dewar
1995-03-23 18:05       ` John DiCamillo
1995-03-17 23:01 ` Larry Kilgallen, LJK Software
1995-03-18 12:41 ` Tucker Taft
1995-03-22 16:50 ` Renaud HEBERT
1995-03-23 23:23   ` John Volan
1995-03-24  0:38   ` Robert Dewar
1995-03-27 10:28 R.A.L Williams
1995-03-27  0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1995-04-04  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1995-03-28 17:07 ` Larry Kilgallen, LJK Software
1995-03-27 10:38 R.A.L Williams
1995-03-30  3:14 ` Michael D. Griffin
1995-03-30  0:00   ` David Weller
1995-04-04  0:00   ` Jack Beidler
1995-04-04  0:00   ` Brian Rogoff
1995-03-29  0:00 R.A.L Williams
1995-03-30  0:00 R.A.L Williams
1995-04-03  0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
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