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From: kilgallen@eisner.decus.org (Larry Kilgallen)
Subject: Re: Decent ADA compiler on a Mac
Date: 1995/04/07
Date: 1995-04-07T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1995Apr7.132823.9608@eisner.decus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: dewar.797191164@gnat

In article <dewar.797191164@gnat>, dewar@cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) writes:

> But in fact if you read these in more detail, both agree that the ideal is
> to have a nicely integrated environment with both visual and command line
> capabilities.
> 
> Does anyone really disagree with this? My original post which set off this
> discussion complained about the Mac because it had NO command line facility.

In principle allowing a command line interface should not cause pain.

In practice, however, cases where a command line interface is provided
one finds the developers of the tool frequently using it as an excuse
for skimping on the IDE.  "Oh, you want to refer to a file elsewhere
on your system?  Either navigate with standard file selection boxes,
or enter a full path specification.  That's why we have a command line
interface."

Full path specifications are _incredibly_ foreign to a Macintosh
user, and navigating with file selection boxes is the pits.  Find File
works well enough, but really an equivalent should be built into the
IDE to make things smooth.  (My understanding is that Find File was
a shareware buyout anyway.)

In summary, I guess I would be willing to allow a command line interface,
providing the IDE developers were forbidden to use it for their own work.
That might provide the necessary pressure to ensure the IDE is complete.

Some of us have so much experience with command-line operating systems
(myself included) that we lose our grasp of what might be.




      reply	other threads:[~1995-04-07  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1995-03-17  6:22 Decent ADA compiler on a Mac David John Toshack
1995-03-18  6:23 ` Vladimir Vukicevic
1995-03-19 15:28   ` Robert Dewar
1995-03-20 15:24     ` Bob Collins
1995-03-21  2:47       ` Gary McKee
1995-03-27 15:04         ` Bob Collins
1995-03-21 14:50       ` Larry Kilgallen, LJK Software
1995-03-21 17:35         ` David Weller
1995-03-22  3:50           ` Vladimir Vukicevic
1995-03-22  5:11             ` Michael Feldman
1995-03-22 16:00               ` Jon Spear
1995-03-23 21:55                 ` Robert Dewar
1995-03-25  3:04                   ` Michael Feldman
1995-03-25 21:29                     ` Larry Kilgallen, LJK Software
1995-03-28  4:50                       ` Larry Kilgallen, LJK Software
1995-03-28 12:36                     ` Fabrizio Oddone
1995-03-30  0:00             ` Lars Farm
1995-04-04  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1995-03-20 20:55     ` Kevin F. Quinn
1995-03-21  4:33     ` Vladimir Vukicevic
1995-03-21  4:41     ` Matthew C. Sargent
1995-03-22  3:45       ` Vladimir Vukicevic
1995-04-02  0:00         ` Valentin Richter
1995-04-06  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-07  0:00           ` Bob Collins
1995-03-22 14:00       ` Robert Dewar
1995-03-22 19:53         ` Larry Kilgallen, LJK Software
1995-03-24 15:48         ` David Weller
1995-03-25 21:22           ` Apex command-line (was Re: Decent ADA compiler on a Mac) Bob Kitzberger
1995-03-27 13:37             ` Robert Dewar
1995-03-30  0:00               ` Charles H. Sampson
1995-03-23 14:09       ` Decent ADA compiler on a Mac Arthur Evans Jr
1995-03-29  0:00         ` Matthew C. Sargent
1995-04-06  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-07  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen [this message]
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