CMS-2, J73, et al.

CMS-2, J73, et al.

[Don Tyzuk]

If existing software is to be re-written from current
languages to Ada, aspiring software-engineers like myself will
have to know how to read stuff and nonsense such as CMS-2, 
Jovial, etc.

How can I do this?  Are there public domain implementations of
these languages?  What about books or CBT? Who manufactures
these translators?  

I am receiving the Ada-Jovial Newsletter, (Thank-you very much
to the folks there!) but I  need more!

-- 
Don Tyzuk				| P.O. Box 1406
Jodrey School of Computer Science	| Wolfville, Nova Scotia
Acadia University			| CANADA     B0P 1X0
e-mail: don.tyzuk@acadiau.ca

Re: CMS-2, J73, et al.

[Michael Feldman]

In article <1993Mar7.132536.2138@dragon.acadiau.ca> 841613t@dragon.acadiau.ca (Don Tyzuk) writes:
>If existing software is to be re-written from current
>languages to Ada, aspiring software-engineers like myself will
>have to know how to read stuff and nonsense such as CMS-2, 
>Jovial, etc.

Nowhere in the DoD mandate or implementation policy is it required to
re-code working applications in Ada. Generally the standard industry
rule of thumb is that if old code needs to be changed at more than about
the 30% level, it should be tossed and re-done from the design. It
shouldn't be necessary to go back into old code just to move a system
to Ada.
>
>How can I do this?  Are there public domain implementations of
>these languages?  What about books or CBT? Who manufactures
>these translators?  

I doubt that PD implementations are out there. These languages have been
(unlike Ada, which has a growing non-defense following) _exclusively_
used in the DoD-type community, and sometimes (like CMS-2) only within
one service.
>
>I am receiving the Ada-Jovial Newsletter, (Thank-you very much
>to the folks there!) but I  need more!
Your curiosity is admirable but unnecessary. Better to spend your
energy getting good at current languages, IMHO.

Cheers -

Mike
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School of Engineering and Applied Science
The George Washington University
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Re: CMS-2, J73, et al.

[Eric E. Mays]

In article <1993Mar7.132536.2138@dragon.acadiau.ca>, 841613t@dragon.acadiau.ca (Don Tyzuk) writes:
|> If existing software is to be re-written from current
|> languages to Ada, aspiring software-engineers like myself will
|> have to know how to read stuff and nonsense such as CMS-2, 
|> Jovial, etc.
|> 
|> How can I do this?  Are there public dombin implementations of
|> these languages?  What about books or CBT? Who manufactures
|> these translators?  
|> 
|> I am receiving the Ada-Jovial Newsletter, (Thank-you very much
|> to the folks there!) but I  need more!
|> 
|> -- 
|> Don Tyzuk				| P.O. Box 1406
|> Jodrey School of Computer Science	| Wolfville, Nova Scotia
|> Acadia University			| CANADA     B0P 1X0
|> e-mbil: don.tyzuk@acadiau.ca

Don,

   Call Marion Rucker at (513) 255-4472, she has Jovial CBT and
programming manuals and other materials for distribution.  She 
works in the office that distributes the "Ada Jovial Newsletter", 
as do I.

Thanks,

Eric  

Re: CMS-2, J73, et al.

[Eric E. Mays]

In article <1993Mar7.132536.2138@dragon.acadiau.ca>, 841613t@dragon.acadiau.ca (Don Tyzuk) writes:
|> If existing software is to be re-written from current
|> languages to Ada, aspiring software-engineers like myself will
|> have to know how to read stuff and nonsense such as CMS-2, 
|> Jovial, etc.
|> 
|> How can I do this?  Are there public domain implementations of
|> these languages?  What about books or CBT? Who manufactures
|> these translators?  
|> 
|> I am receiving the Ada-Jovial Newsletter, (Thank-you very much
|> to the folks there!) but I  need more!
|> 
|> -- 
|> Don Tyzuk				| P.O. Box 1406
|> Jodrey School of Computer Science	| Wolfville, Nova Scotia
|> Acadia University			| CANADA     B0P 1X0
|> e-mail: don.tyzuk@acadiau.ca

Don,

   Call Marion Rucker at (513) 255-4472, she has Jovial CBT and
programming manuals and other materials for distribution.  She 
works in the office that distributes the "Ada Jovial Newsletter", 
as do I.

Thanks,

Eric