From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: The actual quote from the Post AAS article
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1993 21:06:13 GMT
Date: 1993-03-16T21:06:13+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1993Mar16.210613.7208@mksol.dseg.ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1993Mar15.035032.10779@seas.gwu.edu
In <1993Mar15.035032.10779@seas.gwu.edu> mfeldman@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Feldman) writes:
>In article <8ceF1B1w165w@netlink.cts.com> mshapiro@netlink.cts.com (Michael Shapiro) writes:
>>
>>This discussion does bring up one of the points I make from time to time,
>>the observation is the only "high order" language around. All the others
>>are "high level" languages. I have the feeling that this arbitrary
>>change of nomenclature (seemingly traced back to the HOLWG) gives people
>>the feeling that the DoD doesn't really want Ada to fit in with the
>>community of programming languages.
>>
>I think it goes back farther than the HOLWG. DoD has _always_ used the term
>"high-order" languages. DoD also referred to ADP (Automatic Data Processing)
>in the old days when the rest of the US said EDP (Electronic Data Processing).
>DoD also calls its TV dinners MRE's (Meals, Ready to Eat). I read that
>they were distributing leftover MRE's from Desert Storm to homeless
>shelters.
If you can say with a straight face that an MRE is the same thing as a
TV dinner, you've obviously never eaten either one or the other of
them. Actually, their 'TV dinner' is called a 'traypack' (sp?),
except that it's a TV dinner for 40 or so. MRE's aren't TV dinners; I
would maintain that they are also not Ready to Eat, but that's another
matter.
>One can argue that it's weird that DoD has its own unique sublanguage
>of American English; I think I'd agree. But I don't think that it has
>anything in particular to do with Ada, or even with languages, and
>pre-dates Ada. DoD didn't _change_ the terminology; they've _always_
>diverged from the rest of us. Perhaps they should change now, to agree
>with the rest of the world, but that is a different argument.
The argument that Ada tends to use different words for concepts that
were already known in other parts of the industry by different names
is fairly true, I would say, but I'm not sure that 'HOL' is an example
of that particular 'newspeak'.
--
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in the real world." -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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1993-03-13 22:34 ` The actual quote from the Post AAS article news
1993-03-14 0:36 ` Michael Feldman
1993-03-14 8:24 ` Mike Berman
1993-03-14 23:42 ` Michael Shapiro
1993-03-15 3:50 ` Michael Feldman
1993-03-16 21:06 ` fred j mccall 575-3539 [this message]
1993-03-17 4:12 ` Michael Feldman
1993-03-14 12:51 ` Don Tyzuk
1993-03-18 0:41 Robert I. Eachus
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1993-03-14 14:01 ` news
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1993-03-11 19:21 Mike Berman
1993-03-11 21:30 ` Robert I. Eachus
1993-03-11 23:47 ` Mike Berman
1993-03-12 23:25 ` Michael Feldman
1993-03-12 23:33 ` Michael Feldman
1993-03-11 21:35 ` Michael Feldman
1993-03-15 10:59 ` Kevin Rigotti
1993-03-15 19:31 ` Michael Feldman
1993-03-16 14:54 ` david.c.willett
1993-03-17 22:02 ` Gregory Aharonian
1993-03-18 17:49 ` david.c.willett
1993-03-12 16:15 ` Tom Pole
1993-03-12 23:15 ` Charles H. Sampson
1993-03-13 0:04 ` Michael Feldman
1993-03-16 18:04 ` Tom Pole
1993-03-13 4:15 ` David Weller
1993-03-16 17:58 ` Tom Pole
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