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From: sampson@nosc.mil (Charles H. Sampson)
Subject: Re: The actual quote from the Post AAS article
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1993 23:15:52 GMT
Date: 1993-03-12T23:15:52+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1993Mar12.231552.6129@nosc.mil> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1993Mar12.161548.6286@evb.com

In article <1993Mar12.161548.6286@evb.com> pole@evb.com (Tom Pole) writes:
-In article <1no3fbINN3h7@umbc4.umbc.edu> berman@umbc.edu (Mike Berman) writes:
->
->There have been a few posts referring to the 8 March Washington Post
->article, "Out-of-Control Contract - How IBM's Effort to Modernize FAA's
->Air Traffic Monitoring System Went Awry". 
->
->Out of a several hundred word (~60 column inch) article, Ada is mentioned
->directly in one paragraph only:
->
->	"Adding a further level of complexity was the
->	government's insistence that the entire project be done using a
->	new computer language called Ada. The federal government was
->	attempting to control a muddle of incompatible software
->	languages by standardizing, but many programmers had to learn
->	the exotic language from scratch."
->
->"... new ..."? "... exotic ..."?!?
-
-... other good stuff deleted.
-
->
->Any attempt to assert, based on the information in this article, that Ada
->is the sole reason for failure, or even a major contributing factor, is
->absurd. This project would have failed using any implementation
->language.
->
-
-The point is that these problems were known to be the major culprits
-in the "software crises" and Ada was supposed to solve them.

     I've lost track of who edited whom, but what is missing in the above
is a large number of claims about non-programming problems, among them
one that mid-level IBM managers had been circumventing established proce-
dures for vetting software.  I don't know of any language that can solve
that problem.  I certainly don't think Ada proponents have every claimed
it for Ada.

				Charlie



  reply	other threads:[~1993-03-12 23:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1993-03-11 19:21 The actual quote from the Post AAS article Mike Berman
1993-03-11 21:30 ` Robert I. Eachus
1993-03-11 23:47   ` Mike Berman
1993-03-12 23:25   ` Michael Feldman
1993-03-12 23:33   ` Michael Feldman
1993-03-11 21:35 ` Michael Feldman
1993-03-15 10:59   ` Kevin Rigotti
1993-03-15 19:31     ` Michael Feldman
1993-03-16 14:54       ` david.c.willett
1993-03-17 22:02         ` Gregory Aharonian
1993-03-18 17:49           ` david.c.willett
1993-03-12 16:15 ` Tom Pole
1993-03-12 23:15   ` Charles H. Sampson [this message]
1993-03-13  0:04   ` Michael Feldman
1993-03-16 18:04     ` Tom Pole
1993-03-13  4:15   ` David Weller
1993-03-16 17:58     ` Tom Pole
     [not found] <1no3fbINN3h7@umbc4.umbc.edu*<1993Mar12.232510.7619@seas.gwu.edu>
1993-03-13 22:34 ` news
1993-03-14  0:36   ` Michael Feldman
1993-03-14  8:24     ` Mike Berman
1993-03-14 23:42       ` Michael Shapiro
1993-03-15  3:50         ` Michael Feldman
1993-03-16 21:06           ` fred j mccall 575-3539
1993-03-17  4:12             ` Michael Feldman
1993-03-14 12:51   ` Don Tyzuk
     [not found] <1no3fbINN3h7@umbc4.umbc.edu*<1993Mar12.232510.7619@seas.gwu.edu*<1993Mar14.003649.24085@seas.gwu.edu>
1993-03-14 14:01 ` news
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1993-03-18  0:41 Robert I. Eachus
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