Re: Building OSF/Motif Interfaces with Ada

[agate!dog.ee.lbl.gov!network.ucsd.edu!news.cerf.net!crash!telesoft!garym@ ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Morris @ignite)]

In <68074@mimsy.umd.edu> holmes@cs.umd.edu (Holmes S. Liao) writes:
>In article <1993May28.233328.8114@alsys.com> garym@alsys.com (Gary Morris @ign
ite) writes:
>>That announcement was posted only to comp.newprod because commercial
>>announcements are not permitted on the INFO-ADA mailing list (which is
>>gatewayed to/from comp.lang.ada) according to AJPO guidelines. 

>Then may I ask why Alsys' Linda posted a pointer announcement after I posted
>the original announcement from comp.newprod for Alsys? 

While your re-posting of our comp.newprod announcement occurred before we
posted the pointer in comp.lang.ada, because of the delays inherent in
USENET news your re-posting article did not arrive at this site until 12
hours after we had posted the pointer. 

>Wouldn't her post 
>be considered as commercial announcement as well? 

In my opinion it does not.  I reviewed the AJPO guidelines before the
original posting was made and decided comp.newprod was the right place to
put it, but that we could put a pointer to it in comp.lang.ada.  I waited
until after it appeared to comp.newprod to post the pointer (it is hard to
predict how much delay there will be when you go post an article to a
moderated group). 

>What about Aharonian's
>post about seeking business partners? His post didn't even mention *Ada*. 

I don't recall exactly what he said, but as an Ada vendor I don't think it
is appropriate for us to attempt to enforce the guidelines.  We simply
trying to follow them, if other vendors or businesses choose to ignore them
that doesn't make it OK for us to do so. 

The INFO-ADA mailing list is not moderated, there is no moderator to enforce
the guidelines.  Also, the AJPO guidelines are not well known, there is no
reference to them in the FAQ and they aren't periodically posted to INFO-ADA
(as far as I know).  So there is little compliance, a lot of people think
they should be relaxed (that is also my personal opinion) and choose to
ignore them.  But until the guidelines are changed, we will continue to try
to follow them. 

>I have to admit I joked a little about Alsys' trying to kiss off Ada. 

Humorous comments are traditionally marked with a smilie :-) on USENET, that
particular comment wasn't.  I assumed that it was just an error and everyone
would know that the thread you were indirectly referring to was about
Verdix. 

I'm sure everyone must be getting tired of this discussion by now, if
there's more to be said on this, let's take it to email. 
--GaryM
-- 
Gary Morris                      Internet: garym@alsys.com
TeleUSE/Ada Development          UUCP:     uunet!alsys.com!garym
Alsys Group (TeleSoft)           Phone:    +1 619-457-2700 x128
San Diego, CA, USA               Fax:      +1 619-452-1334