* Re: Ada fairs poorly in CASE market survey
@ 1993-01-15 17:11 David McAllister
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From: David McAllister @ 1993-01-15 17:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
In article <SRCTRAN.93Jan14232941@world.std.com> srctran@world.std.com (Gregory
Aharonian) writes:
> The January 1993 issue of Software Magazine has a lengthy article on
>software reusability (pages 86-92). On page 88 there is a table of the
>results of a survey by Sentry Market Research titled:
>
> "Development Language Preferences among CASE buyers"
>
>with the following results:
>
> 1991 1992
>
> Cobol 41% 38%
> C 18% 16%
> 4GL 15% 13%
> Other 13% 16%
> Fortran 5% 4%
> C++ 4% 4%
> Other OOs 3% 4%
> Ada 2% 4%
>
> These results pretty much reflect similar surveys, such as language
>presence at trade shows, language requirements in help wanted ads, and softwar
e
>tools and libraries sold commercially.
>
> To base this nation's software defense policies on a mandated language,
>when neither the DoD, its contractors or Ada compiler vendors care enough to
>foster interest and demand in the non-mandated world, is criminal, as their
>inactions undermine the ability of the free markets to provide Ada supply to
>meet defense needs. This continuing niche status of Ada will drive up the
>cost of Ada tools and programmers, driving up the costs of developing defense
>software systems.
>
>Greg Aharonian
>Source Translation & Optimization
>--
>**************************************************************************
>Greg Aharonian
>Source Translation & Optimiztion
>P.O. Box 404, Belmont, MA 02178
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* Re: Ada fairs poorly in CASE market survey
@ 1993-01-15 17:36 David McAllister
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From: David McAllister @ 1993-01-15 17:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Subject: Re: Ada fairs poorly in CASE market survey
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If you read the caption for this survey, you'd find
"STALWART. A survey of mostly MIS developers shows that Cobol is still
the runaway winner, with a 38% share in 1992. That share loses several
points a year, though, with no clear mop-up entry."
While I agree with some of the sentiments expressed by Mr Aharonian, I
feel that the context of this survey should be noted. I also find it
interesting that only Ada and 'Other OO's' grew in share.
In article <SRCTRAN.93Jan14232941@world.std.com> srctran@world.std.com (Gregory
Aharonian) writes:
> The January 1993 issue of Software Magazine has a lengthy article on
>software reusability (pages 86-92). On page 88 there is a table of the
>results of a survey by Sentry Market Research titled:
>
> "Development Language Preferences among CASE buyers"
>
>with the following results:
>
> 1991 1992
>
> Cobol 41% 38%
> C 18% 16%
> 4GL 15% 13%
> Other 13% 16%
> Fortran 5% 4%
> C++ 4% 4%
> Other OOs 3% 4%
> Ada 2% 4%
>
> These results pretty much reflect similar surveys, such as language
>presence at trade shows, language requirements in help wanted ads, and softwar
e
>tools and libraries sold commercially.
>
> To base this nation's software defense policies on a mandated language,
>when neither the DoD, its contractors or Ada compiler vendors care enough to
>foster interest and demand in the non-mandated world, is criminal, as their
>inactions undermine the ability of the free markets to provide Ada supply to
>meet defense needs. This continuing niche status of Ada will drive up the
>cost of Ada tools and programmers, driving up the costs of developing defense
>software systems.
>
>Greg Aharonian
>Source Translation & Optimization
>--
>**************************************************************************
>Greg Aharonian
>Source Translation & Optimiztion
>P.O. Box 404, Belmont, MA 02178
*SHINDO - the ART of the MIND*
*Fortune for the day*
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* Re: Ada fairs poorly in CASE market survey
@ 1993-01-15 20:03 Bob Kitzberger
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From: Bob Kitzberger @ 1993-01-15 20:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
srctran@world.std.com (Gregory Aharonian) writes:
> The January 1993 issue of Software Magazine has a lengthy article on
>software reusability (pages 86-92). On page 88 there is a table of the
>results of a survey by Sentry Market Research titled:
>
> "Development Language Preferences among CASE buyers"
>with the following results:
> 1991 1992
> Cobol 41% 38%
> C 18% 16%
...
> C++ 4% 4%
> Ada 2% 4%
Greg, in order to put much stock in this survey's results, we'd need to
know how many people participated, and from whence they came. I would
expect different results for surveys of Datamation subscribers than I
would for Embedded Systems Programming magazine subscribers...
Also, in this part of the country, the results above hardly reflect the
want ads. C, C++, and Ada beat out COBOL in these parts, if you track
the want ads. (By the way, a disturbing trend is that you can now see
want ads that state "no applicants from the defense industry, please."
There's more to the commercial/defense split than language choice.)
.Bob.
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rlk@visicom.com 10052 Mesa Ridge Court, San Diego CA 92121 USA
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