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From: seas.gwu.edu!mfeldman@uunet.uu.net  (Michael Feldman)
Subject: Re: FORTRAN bug(was Re: C++ vs. Ada -- Is Ada loosing?)
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:31:47 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1992Dec11.213147.24000@seas.gwu.edu> (raw)

In article <1992Dec11.132942.24054@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com 
(fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>
>>For 10 points on your grade: what is printed? Why?
>>Try explaining it to a freshman.
>
>Nothing is printed.  You built an infinite loop.  This is hard to
>understand?  You made a while loop with an empty body and a condition
>that is never met because you never increment x.  Your freshmen don't
>get this?

Sure they get it. I just don't want to take my time or theirs on this
kind of silliness. Which is why I keep saying that C should be
everyone's second language and nobody's first.
>
>>Any similar idiosyncracies in Ada? 
>
>Single character ones?  Probably not, but that just indicates that Ada
>is incredibly more verbose than C.  One of the things I DISlike about
>it, by the way.
>
You're certainly entitled to your opinion. I'm not down on C. I'd
rather train my teenager on a nice, verbose, safe car and give him
the keys to the Porsche after he's proven himself on the Chevy.
Less chance he'll waste his time crashing and burning. And the 70% or
more of the freshman teachers who are going to Ada or sticking with
Pascal (only slightly less verbose than Ada) agree.

Please - no more language wars.

Mike

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1992-12-18 21:56 FORTRAN bug(was Re: C++ vs. Ada -- Is Ada loosing?) Michael Feldman
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1992-12-12 17:53 Michael Feldman
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1992-12-12  6:04 Bob Kitzberger
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