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From: lindsay@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Lindsay Groves)
Subject: Re: problems/risks due to programming language, stories requested
Date: 14 Mar 90 04:46:56 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1990Mar14.044656.28854@kaukau.comp.vuw.ac.nz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 6960@internal.Apple.COM

In article <1004@micropen>, dave@micropen (David F. Carlson) writes:
> What break does is *very* well defined and is no more prone to
misinterpretation
> that any other non-linear control flow statement in any other PL.

A number of people in this discussion (which I haven't reached the end of yet!)
have said things like this, and appear to be suggesting that because something
is well defined there is no excuse for anyone misusing it.  I disagree
with that
and also with the second part of this statement.  There are languages in which
any kind of exit has to explicitly name the construct to be exitted -- so there
is no possiblity of consfusion about which construct the exit/break/etc.
applies
to.

> A multi-case switch is very handy in many situations to reduce identical
> treatments for similar cases.  That you ask the question of the usefulness
> of break-per-case/multiple-cases implies that you haven't sufficient
experience
> with the construct to judge its merits/weaknesses.
> 
> Dijkstra notes that no programming language can prevent a poor
programmer from
> creating bad programs.

So why aren't we all still using FORTRAN (or some older dialect)?  Why did we
all think that unlabelled CASE statements (as in Algol-W and Burroughs Algol)
were a big improvement over computed GOTOs in FORTRAN (which is basically what
the switch in C is), or that the labelled CASE statement (as in Pascal) was
a big improvement over that?  Maybe the whole of the last 30 years of work in
programming language design has been a dream!!!

Lindsay Groves

  parent reply	other threads:[~1990-03-14  4:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1990-02-20 22:28 problems/risks due to programming language, stories requested Gerald Baumgartner
1990-02-21 16:49 ` Richard A Hammond
1990-02-21 20:15   ` problems/risks due to programming language William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
1990-02-21 22:49     ` Richard A Hammond
1990-02-21 23:14     ` John F Nixon
1990-02-22  5:39     ` Scott MacHaffie
1990-02-22 20:13       ` William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
1990-02-23 17:32         ` Richard A Hammond
1990-02-25 20:23           ` David Kassover
1990-02-22 20:48       ` Jeff Lawhorn
1990-02-23  2:00       ` Douglas Miller
1990-02-22 16:05         ` Dan L. Pierson
1990-02-22 20:28           ` David Kassover
1990-02-24 19:52           ` Erland Sommarskog
1990-02-23 17:45         ` Mike Harrison
1990-02-27  2:02           ` Douglas Miller
1990-02-22 18:28     ` Mike Percy
1990-02-23  2:09     ` Douglas Miller
1990-02-22  0:25   ` problems/risks due to programming language, stories requested David Kassover
1990-02-22  3:42     ` Richard A Hammond
1990-02-22 16:08       ` David Kassover
1990-02-22 16:21       ` David Kassover
1990-02-23 18:11 ` Thomas Vachuska
1990-02-24  0:13 ` Mark Brader
1990-02-27 19:30 ` Bill Leonard
1990-02-28 18:57   ` Paul Snively
1990-02-28 21:35     ` Jason Coughlin
1990-03-01 19:00       ` Barry Margolin
1990-03-02 13:31         ` Richard A Hammond
1990-03-02 19:26           ` William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
1990-03-02 22:19             ` Richard A Hammond
1990-03-06 21:54               ` John Boone
1990-03-03 20:18             ` Charles E Eaker
1990-03-03 21:11               ` Invalid analogy William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
1990-03-03 23:26                 ` I Wish
1990-03-05 19:51                 ` John F Nixon
1990-03-09 17:20                 ` Tony Sanders
1990-03-01 15:33     ` problems/risks due to programming language, stories requested Jeff Dalton
1990-03-01 21:42       ` Chuck Lins
1990-03-02 19:19     ` David F. Carlson
1990-03-02 22:15       ` William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
1990-03-06 10:11         ` jbaker
1990-03-08 15:19           ` Lou Steinberg
1990-03-08 21:44             ` Gianfranco Ciardo
1990-03-09 16:18               ` David Kassover
1990-03-09 16:55               ` Erann Gat
1990-03-10 17:50               ` Andrew P. Mullhaupt
1990-03-12  4:06                 ` Peter da Silva
1990-03-12 16:58                 ` Jeff Clark
1990-03-12 20:20                 ` Proposal comp.lang.jihad (was Re: problems/risks due to blah etc.) What`s in a name?
1990-03-09 20:13         ` problems/risks due to programming language, stories requested Tony Sanders
1990-03-13 22:11           ` Erland Sommarskog
1990-03-19  1:01           ` Ada vs C, objectivity requested Lucio de Re
1990-03-26 20:37             ` Karl Heuer
1990-03-15 15:31         ` problems/risks due to programming language, stories requested jaws
1990-03-02 23:27       ` Jim Giles
1990-03-03  2:23         ` Vincent Manis
1990-03-03  2:10       ` problems/risks due to programming language Karl Heuer
1990-03-02 23:01     ` problems/risks due to programming language, stories requested William J. Bouma
1990-03-14  4:46     ` Lindsay Groves [this message]
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1990-03-16  9:38 vanavermaet
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