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From: rcd@ico.isc.com (Dick Dunn)
Subject: This has gotten stupid!
Date: 19 Nov 89 06:30:56 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1989Nov19.063056.14466@ico.isc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7089@hubcap.clemson.edu

> > 1. Precisely which Ada compilers produce better code than 
> >    which C compilers? Not all compilers are created equal...
>    The Telesoft TeleGen2 compiler, vs. all available C compilers,
>    as of circa October 1988; contact Telesoft for details...

Oh, right, Telesoft is the unbiased judge of the universal superiority of
its own compiler!

>    the statement was made at the Telesoft User's Group meeting at
>    the Tri-Ada '88 conference.  

In other words, they made the statement in what amounts to a mutual ad-
miration society meeting.

> > 2. What are the benchmarks and where can they be obtained?...

>    I seem to recall "Dhrystone", among others, being cited.  There 
>    were no limitations on the use of the Ada language.

You "seem to recall"???  Your grandiose boasting is based on something you
don't quite remember?  Even if the one you think you remember is correct,
it's a tiny synthetic benchmark with well-known problems (acknowledged by
the author) and it is NOT suitable for comparisons of compilers.

> > 3. What are the hardware/OS platforms and...

>    I think the comparison might have focused on Sun workstations,
>    but I'm by no means positive...

But soft! 'Tis fair Amnesia come to stay a while.  Isn't it convenient how
little information there is here?  It's probably a comparison against pcc.

Bill told us that, thanks to sophisticated compiler technology, Ada
compilers can now give us better object code than C compilers.  But the
claim apparently applies only to one Ada compiler; the claim is made by
the vendor of that compiler; the claim is reported at a meeting for users
of the compiler; the benchmarks and hardware platforms used for the com-
parison are conveniently forgotten.

Pure vapor.

Bill, you argue best for Ada when you don't post.

Does anyone have any substance about code-generation quality of Ada
compilers?  I think it's a potentially interesting subject.
-- 
Dick Dunn     rcd@ico.isc.com    uucp: {ncar,nbires}!ico!rcd     (303)449-2870
   ...`Just say no' to mindless dogma.

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Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1989-11-14 21:24 A farewell to Ada Ted Holden
1989-11-14 22:54 ` schmidt
1989-11-15 16:06 ` Ada William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
1989-11-15 16:29   ` Ada & IBM William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
1989-11-17 15:16     ` ryer
1989-11-18 18:47       ` William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
1989-11-20  4:53       ` Jerry Callen
1989-11-19  6:05     ` Dick Dunn
1989-11-22 19:20       ` William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
1989-11-19 20:19     ` Liam R. E. Quin
1989-11-20 12:55       ` William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
1989-11-25 23:35         ` Liam R. E. Quin
1989-11-26  9:03           ` Ken Ritchie
1989-11-15 23:18   ` Ada Promises Doug Schmidt
1989-11-16 22:45     ` Ada compilers William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
1989-11-19  6:30       ` Dick Dunn [this message]
1989-11-16 19:08   ` Ada Walter Rowe
1989-11-16 21:33     ` Ada William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
1989-11-17 18:53       ` Ada Pablo Fernicola
1989-11-18 18:55         ` Ada William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
1989-11-21  5:24           ` Ada Andrew Koenig
1989-11-22  9:54             ` Ada Mats Luthman
1989-11-22 18:44             ` Ada William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
1989-11-23  9:44               ` Ada Mats Luthman
1989-11-23  7:12             ` Ada Markku Sakkinen
1989-11-21 14:35           ` Ada [and the object oriented metaphor] mjl
1989-11-22 20:54             ` Hoare, Ada, and safety/complexity John Goodenough
1989-11-24  0:38               ` Richard Pattis
1989-11-26  6:09           ` Ada vs. C++ Paul S. R. Chisholm
1989-11-18  6:38       ` Ada Marco S Hyman
1989-11-19  7:25       ` interesting statistic Dick Dunn
1989-11-22 18:54         ` William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
1989-11-24 17:44           ` Cay Horstmann
1989-11-25 19:59             ` William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
1989-11-17 15:59     ` Ada allows one-char names (was Re: Ada) Steve Frysinger of Blue Feather Farm
1989-11-19  5:52   ` Forward into the past Dick Dunn
1989-11-20 16:47   ` Ada vs. Posix -- the battle continues mjl
1989-11-20 21:51     ` Ada & Posix William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
1989-11-21  1:06       ` William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
1989-11-15 18:55 ` A farewell to Ada Richard S D'Ippolito
1989-11-17 17:19 ` Michael Schwartz
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