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From: rcd@ico.isc.com (Dick Dunn)
Subject: Re: Ada & IBM
Date: 19 Nov 89 06:05:02 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1989Nov19.060502.14381@ico.isc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7056@hubcap.clemson.edu

billwolf%hazel.cs.clemson.edu@hubcap.clemson.edu (William Thomas Wolfe,
2847 ) writes in response to Ted Holden's comments about problems...
> >> ...due to IBM Ada implementations and tools (or lack thereof).  

>     Apparently IBM has now changed its tune; its recent brochure
>     entitled "Ada and IBM... Capability and Committment" states:

>       IBM is committed to Ada...

So what?  First, Ted did not address the question of whether IBM is
committed to Ada; he was talking about a report of real-world problems.

Second, "commitment" is not measured by glowing words in a brochure.  Do
you really think IBM would put out a brochure that said "Well, we're not
really keen on Ada, but it looks like we need it..."?

Wanna buy a bridge?  I'm committed to selling you the finest bridge.  It's
got support for modern engineering...hey, it supports lots of things.  It's
got breadth of application...you can apply it to any need as broad as the
bridge is wide...

Sheesh...it's marketing.  Do you believe every piece of advertising you
read?  Find out what's behind it.

What has IBM got for Ada?  Better yet, if you want to measure commitment,
find out how much new software THEY're writing in Ada (as opposed to
assembly language, or PL/S, or C, or...)

Do you really want a bold commitment from the company that gave us PL/I?
(Save the flames...yes, I know a lot of good software was written in PL/I.
It's still uglier than yesterday's roadkill.)
-- 
Dick Dunn     rcd@ico.isc.com    uucp: {ncar,nbires}!ico!rcd     (303)449-2870
   ...`Just say no' to mindless dogma.

  parent reply	other threads:[~1989-11-19  6:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1989-11-14 21:24 A farewell to Ada Ted Holden
1989-11-14 22:54 ` schmidt
1989-11-15 16:06 ` Ada William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
1989-11-15 16:29   ` Ada & IBM William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
1989-11-17 15:16     ` ryer
1989-11-18 18:47       ` William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
1989-11-20  4:53       ` Jerry Callen
1989-11-19  6:05     ` Dick Dunn [this message]
1989-11-22 19:20       ` William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
1989-11-19 20:19     ` Liam R. E. Quin
1989-11-20 12:55       ` William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
1989-11-25 23:35         ` Liam R. E. Quin
1989-11-26  9:03           ` Ken Ritchie
1989-11-15 23:18   ` Ada Promises Doug Schmidt
1989-11-16 22:45     ` Ada compilers William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
1989-11-19  6:30       ` This has gotten stupid! Dick Dunn
1989-11-16 19:08   ` Ada Walter Rowe
1989-11-16 21:33     ` Ada William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
1989-11-17 18:53       ` Ada Pablo Fernicola
1989-11-18 18:55         ` Ada William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
1989-11-21  5:24           ` Ada Andrew Koenig
1989-11-22  9:54             ` Ada Mats Luthman
1989-11-22 18:44             ` Ada William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
1989-11-23  9:44               ` Ada Mats Luthman
1989-11-23  7:12             ` Ada Markku Sakkinen
1989-11-21 14:35           ` Ada [and the object oriented metaphor] mjl
1989-11-22 20:54             ` Hoare, Ada, and safety/complexity John Goodenough
1989-11-24  0:38               ` Richard Pattis
1989-11-26  6:09           ` Ada vs. C++ Paul S. R. Chisholm
1989-11-18  6:38       ` Ada Marco S Hyman
1989-11-19  7:25       ` interesting statistic Dick Dunn
1989-11-22 18:54         ` William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
1989-11-24 17:44           ` Cay Horstmann
1989-11-25 19:59             ` William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
1989-11-17 15:59     ` Ada allows one-char names (was Re: Ada) Steve Frysinger of Blue Feather Farm
1989-11-19  5:52   ` Forward into the past Dick Dunn
1989-11-20 16:47   ` Ada vs. Posix -- the battle continues mjl
1989-11-20 21:51     ` Ada & Posix William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
1989-11-21  1:06       ` William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 
1989-11-15 18:55 ` A farewell to Ada Richard S D'Ippolito
1989-11-17 17:19 ` Michael Schwartz
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