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From: weltyrp@rpics.UUCP (Richard Welty)
Subject: Re: Re: What I miss... (really C, Ada, religion)
Date: Sun, 20-Oct-85 22:26:01 EDT	[thread overview]
Date: Sun Oct 20 22:26:01 1985
Message-ID: <196@rpics.UUCP> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 2580002@csd2.UUCP

brooks@lll-crg.UUCP (Eugene D. Brooks III) writes:
>The only people who like it are those who can't manage to write correct
>programs and need a crutch like subscript checking even in a production
>version of a code.
 
>REAL programmers don't need subscript checking, they write lint free code
>automatically.  Please leave your ADA hype on net.ada where no one is
>bothering to read it!

*flame on*

I am not a big fan of ADA, but the preceeding is a load of garbage.

rule 1:  Large systems have bugs

rule 2:  the more checking the language system does for you, either
         at run time or at compile time, the better off you are

rule 3:  the earlier that the system catches a bug (compile time is
         best), the better ...

Correctness proofs are a nice idea, and worthy of many research
dollars, but are far from being able to deal with the problems
that developers of large systems have today.

While I consider C to be more generally useful than Pascal
(and Ada, at the current time), there things about Pascal that
I miss a great deal ... and every time I find a bug in my C code
that Pascal would have flaged at compile time, I miss Pascal more
(and as a VMS C programmer, I don't have access to lint -- I wish
I did).
-- 
				Rich Welty

	(I am both a part-time grad student at RPI and a full-time
	 employee of a local CAE firm, and opinions expressed herein
	 have nothing to do with anything at all)

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      parent reply	other threads:[~1985-10-21  2:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]   ` <191@graffiti.UUCP>
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1985-09-29 18:21       ` What I miss... (really C, Ada, religion) Jan Steinman
1985-10-02  1:16         ` Eugene D. Brooks III
1985-10-03 20:14           ` William D Michael
1985-10-05 19:23             ` DARIN JOHNSON
1985-10-04 13:04           ` Re: What I miss... (really C, Ada, r rosen
1985-10-04 13:44           ` What I miss... (really C, Ada, religion) Jon Mauney
1985-10-05 15:17           ` Swamp Thing
1985-10-05 21:30           ` S.Rajeev
1985-10-06  6:04           ` Jan Steinman
1985-10-07 20:56           ` J. Eric Roskos
1985-10-02 16:04         ` Peter da Silva
1985-10-07 21:04           ` J. Eric Roskos
1985-10-09 18:56           ` Wayne Throop
1985-10-09 23:47           ` Peter Ludemann
1985-09-30 20:00       ` Subscript out-of-bounds detection Joe Orost
1985-10-06 20:54   ` What I miss... (really C, Ada, religion) Eugene D. Brooks III
1985-10-07 14:13   ` Karl Tombre
1985-10-11 12:59   ` J. Eric Roskos
1985-10-13  6:28   ` Barry Margolin
1985-10-16  5:46   ` systolic processor? wildstar
1985-10-21  2:26   ` Richard Welty [this message]
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