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From: "Dan'l Miller" <optikos@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: DragonEgg has been revived
Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 10:01:04 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2018-05-25T10:01:04-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <18ffd86d-f13e-46f4-b8f3-e8685e55a9d8@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pe9ddl$s8l$1@dont-email.me>

On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 11:25:26 AM UTC-5, Jeffrey R. Carter wrote:
> Don't feed the troll.

How dare you!  I am not troller-fishing.  I am trying to determine the licensing viability of my aforementioned GELI project to replace DragonEgg.  It is all highly on-topic and pursuant to productive goals in reaction to the reasons that caused the de facto failure of DragonEgg.  So far, I have convinced myself yesterday to delete the nascent GitHub repository that I had previously started to house the GELI project as a fork of GCC, at least until I can figure out how to navigate the licensing with certainty.  In major-contribution replies in this thread, I am not only:

1) laying out the plan for a practical GELI alternative to GIGI so that GELI feeds an LLVM backend in FSF GNAT for "llvm-"-prefixed targets on the GNAT command line (in addition to GIGI feeding GENERIC/GIMPLE-RTL for traditional-GCC targets on the GNAT command line),

but (unless someone can dismantle the sequence of logic using normative references) also, now in later licensing-related replies, I am revealing some likely reasons for:

2) why A# has quietly faded into lack-of-maintenance in recent years (i.e., because Microsoft/Mono CLR doesn't enjoy the same overt mentioning as a permitted IR in RLEv3.1 that JVM does in Target Code's "notwithstanding" clause in RLEv3.1, which in turns forces all generated CLR bytecode be an IR that in turn would be forced to be GPLv3-licensed);

3) why SPIR-V will never be written as a file from FSF GNAT (or if someone builds out that capability, then why the SPIR-V would be forced to be GPLv3-licensed);

4) why LLVM bitcode IR (e.g., to perhaps support Apple's foreseeable App-Store submission requirements) will never be written as a file from FSF GNAT (or if someone builds out that capability, then why the LLVM bitcode IR would be forced to be GPLv3-licensed)

and other related topics of recently-stated concern on c.l.a.  Troller fishermen don't cast nets like that which contain pertinent useful lucidly-presented information.  Actual bona fide contributors do though.


  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-25 17:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-21 21:37 DragonEgg has been revived Simon Clubley
2018-05-21 22:20 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-05-21 22:26 ` Luke A. Guest
2018-05-22 12:12   ` Simon Clubley
2018-05-22  1:02 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-05-22 12:29   ` Simon Clubley
2018-05-22 12:41     ` Luke A. Guest
2018-05-22 15:25       ` Dan'l Miller
2018-05-22 19:40     ` Shark8
2018-05-22 20:17       ` Dan'l Miller
2018-05-22 21:04         ` Dan'l Miller
2018-05-22 22:33         ` Shark8
2018-05-23  1:58           ` Dan'l Miller
2018-05-23  7:26     ` Simon Wright
2018-05-23  8:11       ` Luke A. Guest
2018-05-23 14:10       ` Dan'l Miller
2018-05-23 15:46       ` Dan'l Miller
2018-05-23 15:51       ` Dan'l Miller
2018-05-23 19:27         ` Chris M Moore
2018-05-23 20:30           ` Dan'l Miller
2018-05-23 22:18             ` Chris M Moore
2018-05-24  0:12               ` Dan'l Miller
2018-05-24  8:00                 ` Simon Wright
2018-05-24  7:19         ` Simon Wright
2018-05-24 15:38           ` Dan'l Miller
2018-05-24 16:44             ` Dan'l Miller
2018-05-24 18:07               ` Lucretia
2018-05-25  0:09                 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-05-24 17:19             ` Simon Wright
2018-05-24 19:26               ` Dan'l Miller
2018-05-24 21:59                 ` Chris M Moore
2018-05-24 22:15                   ` Dan'l Miller
2018-05-24 22:22                     ` Dan'l Miller
2018-05-25  0:19                   ` Luke A. Guest
2018-05-25 13:16                     ` Simon Clubley
2018-05-25 13:29                       ` Lucretia
2018-05-25 17:08                         ` Simon Wright
2018-05-25 18:09                           ` Dan'l Miller
2018-05-25 16:25                     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-05-25 17:01                       ` Dan'l Miller [this message]
2018-05-25  1:54                   ` Dan'l Miller
2018-05-25  2:56                     ` Luke A. Guest
2018-05-25  3:38                       ` Dan'l Miller
2018-05-25 11:12                         ` Brian Drummond
2018-05-24 20:50               ` Dan'l Miller
2018-05-24 20:56               ` Dan'l Miller
2018-05-24 21:00                 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-05-24 20:23             ` G. B.
2018-05-25  7:16             ` Chris M Moore
2018-05-25  8:09               ` Simon Wright
2018-05-25  8:28             ` Simon Wright
2018-05-25 20:02               ` Dan'l Miller
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