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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: New Ada portable GUI Library?
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:13:24 +0100
Date: 2008-01-13T09:13:26+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <187iruircnfuu$.oc2g47zys18k.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: b90d01a4-5996-41b6-811d-4c7052fa0580@x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com

On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:01:43 -0800 (PST), Lucretia wrote:

> Like I said, a thin C layer abstraction which is then imported into an
> Ada library and turned into a proper Ada GUI with native controls,
> this is the best way. For example:
> 
>  Ada GUI Thick bindings
> ------------------------
>  Ada GUI Thin bindings
> ------------------------
>   C abstraction layer   <- Can be provided via C or Ada depending on
> lowest layer
> ------------------------
>    X11 | GtkAda | QT
> 
> I know three is an X11 binding to Ada but it is old and uses
> preprocessing and if you want this library to be portable, you've no
> hope where that's concerned. Hence the use of a set of C calls whether
> these are written in C or Ada (with export(C, ...) pragmas).

Gtk and Qt are themselves thick bindings. It makes no sense to use them as
a low-level rendering platform. An all-Ada GUI design should IMO look like:

Ada GUI library
----------------------------------------
Ada rendering platform abstraction layer
           |
   Ada   | Ada native bindings, engine-specific
-------- | -----------------------------
   X11   | Win32 GUI API

The major problem is a good abstraction layer with a working concept of
inter-tasking signal handler composition. This is a weakness of most known
Ada GUI libraries.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-13  8:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-12 13:37 New Ada portable GUI Library? Tomek Walkuski
2008-01-12 15:19 ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-12 18:12   ` Lucretia
2008-01-12 20:40     ` Tomek Walkuski
2008-01-12 23:01       ` Lucretia
2008-01-13  5:17         ` Vadim Godunko
2008-01-13  9:07           ` Lucretia
2008-01-13 10:49             ` Vadim Godunko
2008-01-16  9:45               ` I. Levashew
2008-01-13  8:13         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2008-01-13  9:11           ` Lucretia
2008-01-13 10:06             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-13 10:25               ` Tomek Walkuski
2008-01-13 12:36                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-13 19:58                   ` Michael Bode
2008-01-13 21:00                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-13 21:53                       ` Michael Bode
2008-01-14  9:11                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-13 23:08                     ` Gary Scott
2008-01-13 23:31                       ` Michael Bode
2008-01-13 23:50                         ` Gary Scott
2008-01-14 19:12                           ` Michael Bode
2008-01-13 11:27               ` Lucretia
2008-01-13 11:29               ` Lucretia
2008-01-15  7:34               ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-15  8:38                 ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-01-15  8:54                   ` Martin Krischik
2008-02-11 22:10               ` Martin
2008-02-12 18:35                 ` Martin Krischik
2008-02-12 21:43                   ` Tomek Walkuski
2008-01-13 11:14           ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-13 11:31             ` Lucretia
2008-01-14 17:58             ` Ben
2008-01-14 18:21               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-14 20:47                 ` Gautier
2008-01-14 21:32                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-13 13:28         ` Stephen Leake
2008-01-13 14:14           ` Pascal Obry
2008-01-13 14:22             ` Pascal Obry
2008-01-15  7:54               ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-16  7:54                 ` Brian May
2008-01-16  8:47                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-16  8:52                   ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-16 18:26                     ` tmoran
2008-01-13 22:22           ` Lucretia
2008-01-14 10:07             ` Stephen Leake
2008-01-12 18:36 ` (slightly OT) Open Source licences? (was: Re: New Ada portable GUI Library?) framefritti
2008-01-12 18:57   ` Maciej Sobczak
2008-01-12 19:27   ` Tomek Walkuski
2008-01-12 19:39   ` (slightly OT) Open Source licences? Gautier
2008-01-12 20:26   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-12 21:58   ` Robert A Duff
2008-01-13  0:04   ` (slightly OT) Open Source licences? (was: Re: New Ada portable GUI Library?) Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-12 22:37 ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-13 11:04 ` New Ada portable GUI Library? Gautier
2008-01-15  7:56   ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-15 17:41     ` Gautier
2008-01-16  8:16     ` tmoran
2008-01-16  8:56       ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-16 19:34       ` Gautier
2008-01-16 22:51         ` Randy Brukardt
2008-01-17 20:32           ` Gautier
2008-01-18  1:41             ` Robert A Duff
2008-01-18 17:53               ` tmoran
2008-01-18 18:59                 ` Robert A Duff
2008-01-18 19:28                   ` Pascal Obry
2008-01-20 22:38                     ` Robert A Duff
2008-01-20  1:38                 ` Jerrid Kimball
2008-01-20 12:30                   ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-01-20 13:40                   ` Stephen Leake
2008-01-20 14:36                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-15  8:17 ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-15  9:14   ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-01-15 10:39     ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-15 14:01       ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-01-15 16:05         ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-15 17:31           ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-01-16  8:28             ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-17  2:21   ` I. Levashew
2008-01-17  7:34     ` OpenStep/GNUStep/Cocoa (Was: New Ada portable GUI Library?) Martin Krischik
2008-01-17  9:06       ` Ivan Levashew
2008-01-17 10:25         ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-18  3:28           ` Ivan Levashew
2008-01-18  7:24             ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-15 21:51 ` New Ada portable GUI Library? Phaedrus
2008-01-16  0:04   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2008-01-16  0:20     ` Phaedrus
2008-01-16  1:09       ` Randy Brukardt
2008-01-16  1:47         ` Phaedrus
2008-01-20 14:07 ` Andre
2008-01-21 23:14 ` Frederik Sausmikat
2008-01-27 11:26   ` Lucretia
2008-01-27 16:47     ` Gary Scott
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