* gnat for MacOS Tiger? @ 2006-08-13 19:39 David Shochat 2006-08-13 19:56 ` Burkhard ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: David Shochat @ 2006-08-13 19:39 UTC (permalink / raw) I just discovered that the gcc that comes with Tiger does not have Ada support (unlike the one that comes with SUSE Linux). So I tried to do some web searching, but only found something that claimed to be an installer for gnat and turned out to be a trial version of MS Office 2004 for Mac (!). So what does one need to do these days to get an Ada-capable gcc on OS X 10.4? Office certainly has its merits (although I prefer to stick with Ooo), but it just doesn't do a very good job of compiling Ada. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: gnat for MacOS Tiger? 2006-08-13 19:39 gnat for MacOS Tiger? David Shochat @ 2006-08-13 19:56 ` Burkhard 2006-08-13 20:06 ` randomm 2006-08-14 8:39 ` Javier Miranda 2 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Burkhard @ 2006-08-13 19:56 UTC (permalink / raw) David Shochat wrote: > I just discovered that the gcc that comes with Tiger does not have Ada > support (unlike the one that comes with SUSE Linux). So I tried to do > some web searching, but only found something that claimed to be an > installer for gnat and turned out to be a trial version of MS Office > 2004 for Mac (!). > > So what does one need to do these days to get an Ada-capable gcc on OS X > 10.4? Office certainly has its merits (although I prefer to stick with > Ooo), but it just doesn't do a very good job of compiling Ada. take a look at www.macada.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: gnat for MacOS Tiger? 2006-08-13 19:39 gnat for MacOS Tiger? David Shochat 2006-08-13 19:56 ` Burkhard @ 2006-08-13 20:06 ` randomm 2006-08-13 21:37 ` David Shochat 2006-08-14 8:39 ` Javier Miranda 2 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: randomm @ 2006-08-13 20:06 UTC (permalink / raw) I found a link here that may be of some interest: http://gnuada.sourceforge.net/pmwiki.php/Install/MacOS Cheers, Rand David Shochat wrote: > I just discovered that the gcc that comes with Tiger does not have Ada > support (unlike the one that comes with SUSE Linux). So I tried to do > some web searching, but only found something that claimed to be an > installer for gnat and turned out to be a trial version of MS Office > 2004 for Mac (!). > > So what does one need to do these days to get an Ada-capable gcc on OS X > 10.4? Office certainly has its merits (although I prefer to stick with > Ooo), but it just doesn't do a very good job of compiling Ada. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: gnat for MacOS Tiger? 2006-08-13 20:06 ` randomm @ 2006-08-13 21:37 ` David Shochat [not found] ` <1155506339.779024.18850@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: David Shochat @ 2006-08-13 21:37 UTC (permalink / raw) randomm@mindless.com wrote: > I found a link here that may be of some interest: > > http://gnuada.sourceforge.net/pmwiki.php/Install/MacOS > Thanks. That page suggested going to macada.com. I was unable to connect to that, but there is a macada.org which has a mailing list (that I just subscribed to). Trouble is, that is the very same site that had the link which claimed to be a version of gnat for Tiger but was actually the trial copy of MS Office! -- David ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
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* Re: gnat for MacOS Tiger? [not found] ` <1155506339.779024.18850@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> @ 2006-08-14 2:20 ` Simon Williams 2006-08-15 10:15 ` David Shochat 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Simon Williams @ 2006-08-14 2:20 UTC (permalink / raw) For what its worth the link is fine (i just downloaded it and checked it). I think what happened is he double clicked on the downloaded app and didnt have stuffit decompressor on his system so it guessed (wrong) and brought up office. I have sent him from our mailing list what he needs. Mac ada is alive and well and we have gcc 4.2 from the fsf archives for tiger that works quite well as well as a plugin for apples IDE (Xcode). On intel macs Paralleles makes a really nice virtual machine capability and i run mac, windows xp, and linux (ubunto and fedora) all on the same machine. with enough memory they will all run at once. i did some gtkada code and built it and had same app running under mac and windows at the same time. worked very nicely to test it out. jim In article <1155506339.779024.18850@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, <randomm@mindless.com> wrote: > X-No-Archive: Yes > > Sorry about that, David. I hadn't checked the link because that page > is fairly current. > > If you're able, perhaps it would be easier to install Linux and do your > Ada work there, as there are more options available and the user > community is quite nice. > > If not, carry on searching and you'll probably find something suitable > and in fact in the end you'll be a pioneer of Ada on the Maccies ;) > > Cheers, > Rand > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: gnat for MacOS Tiger? 2006-08-14 2:20 ` Simon Williams @ 2006-08-15 10:15 ` David Shochat 2006-08-15 15:05 ` gnat for MacOS Tiger? [OT] (see below) 2006-08-17 3:23 ` gnat for MacOS Tiger? Simon Williams 0 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: David Shochat @ 2006-08-15 10:15 UTC (permalink / raw) Simon Williams wrote: > For what its worth the link is fine (i just downloaded it and checked > it). I think what happened is he double clicked on the downloaded app > and didnt have stuffit decompressor on his system so it guessed (wrong) > and brought up office. > I think this is probably true. <OT rant> I now have the Stuffit Expander, but I think it's ridiculous for it to just guess like that. It should have simply stated that I needed to get Stuffit Expander and ended it right there (giving me the option of trying to open it using the application of my choice). And even if it were an Office document, it's yet another absurd leap to simply assume that I want to download a trial copy of MS Office. What if I want to use NeoOffice instead (which I would)? </OT> > I have sent him from our mailing list what he needs. Mac ada is alive > and well and we have gcc 4.2 from the fsf archives for tiger that works > quite well as well as a plugin for apples IDE (Xcode). > Yes, I have downloaded it and run it in command line mode. I will try via Xcode soon. The folks on the GNAT-OSX mailing list are very helpful! -- David ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: gnat for MacOS Tiger? [OT] 2006-08-15 10:15 ` David Shochat @ 2006-08-15 15:05 ` (see below) 2006-08-16 1:28 ` David Shochat 2006-08-17 3:23 ` gnat for MacOS Tiger? Simon Williams 1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: (see below) @ 2006-08-15 15:05 UTC (permalink / raw) On 15/8/06 11:15, in article YtGdnYdISJojA3zZnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@comcast.com, "David Shochat" <shochatd@yahoo.com> wrote: > Simon Williams wrote: >> For what its worth the link is fine (i just downloaded it and checked >> it). I think what happened is he double clicked on the downloaded app >> and didnt have stuffit decompressor on his system so it guessed (wrong) >> and brought up office. >> > I think this is probably true. <OT rant> I now have the Stuffit > Expander, but I think it's ridiculous for it to just guess like that. It > should have simply stated that I needed to get Stuffit Expander and > ended it right there > And even if it were an Office document, > it's yet another absurd leap to simply assume that I want to download a > trial copy of MS Office. What if I want to use NeoOffice instead (which > I would)? </OT> As far as I know, OS X does *not* download Stuffit, MS, or any other software; unasked. If your Mac is like mine, it already had a trial copy of MS Office on its HD at time of purchase. If that had claimed the file type for itself, it would have been invoked (quite correctly) by OS X. Perhaps Office then tried to download an update of itself, or something of that kind. -- Bill Findlay <surname><forename> chez blueyonder.co.uk ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: gnat for MacOS Tiger? [OT] 2006-08-15 15:05 ` gnat for MacOS Tiger? [OT] (see below) @ 2006-08-16 1:28 ` David Shochat 0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: David Shochat @ 2006-08-16 1:28 UTC (permalink / raw) On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:05:33 +0100, (see below) wrote: > > If your Mac is like mine, > it already had a trial copy of MS Office on its HD at time of purchase. > If that had claimed the file type for itself, > it would have been invoked (quite correctly) by OS X. > Yes, you are right. It is gone from my machine, but I checked my wife's iMac and sure enough, there is an "Office 2004 for Mac Test Drive" folder there under Applications. I had totally misunderstood what was going on. Thanks for clearing that up. -- David ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: gnat for MacOS Tiger? 2006-08-15 10:15 ` David Shochat 2006-08-15 15:05 ` gnat for MacOS Tiger? [OT] (see below) @ 2006-08-17 3:23 ` Simon Williams 1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Simon Williams @ 2006-08-17 3:23 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <YtGdnYdISJojA3zZnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@comcast.com>, David Shochat <shochatd@yahoo.com> wrote: >> I think this is probably true. <OT rant> I now have the Stuffit > Expander, but I think it's ridiculous for it to just guess like that. Our stuffit package did not do the guessing mac osx did. i don't know why. it did not download office, the trial package comes preloaded on newer macs i believe. we download NOTHING in our installers. Jim ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: gnat for MacOS Tiger? 2006-08-13 19:39 gnat for MacOS Tiger? David Shochat 2006-08-13 19:56 ` Burkhard 2006-08-13 20:06 ` randomm @ 2006-08-14 8:39 ` Javier Miranda 2006-08-15 1:57 ` Simon Williams 2006-08-27 22:34 ` David Shochat 2 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Javier Miranda @ 2006-08-14 8:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David Shochat; +Cc: comp.lang.ada On Aug 13, 2006, at 3:39 PM, David Shochat wrote: > So what does one need to do these days to get an Ada-capable gcc on > OS X > 10.4? Go to the Libre site of Adacore (https://libre2.adacore.com/), select and download the ppc-darwin platform. Remember that if you want to execute GPS you also need to install the X11 server, available at http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/x11formacosx.html ... and launch GPS from an X11 console. Enjoy! --- Javier Miranda ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: gnat for MacOS Tiger? 2006-08-14 8:39 ` Javier Miranda @ 2006-08-15 1:57 ` Simon Williams 2006-08-17 3:25 ` Jim Hopper 2006-08-21 20:06 ` Simon Wright 2006-08-27 22:34 ` David Shochat 1 sibling, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Simon Williams @ 2006-08-15 1:57 UTC (permalink / raw) But keep in mind that if you get the version from adacore you can only use it for producing Open source applications. the 4.2 compiler at macada.org is built from the FSF sources so it retains the GMPL exception. besides ours works with apples IDE xcode. ;-) i have just put out beta installers. join the mailing list if you want to get them. they will be on the website in a week or so after we are sure they are ok. jim In article <mailman.20.1155544777.32700.comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org>, Javier Miranda <jmiranda@iuma.ulpgc.es> wrote: > On Aug 13, 2006, at 3:39 PM, David Shochat wrote: > > > So what does one need to do these days to get an Ada-capable gcc on > > OS X > > 10.4? > > Go to the Libre site of Adacore (https://libre2.adacore.com/), select > and download the ppc-darwin platform. Remember that if you want to > execute GPS you also need to install the X11 server, available at > > http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/x11formacosx.html > > ... and launch GPS from an X11 console. > > Enjoy! > > --- Javier Miranda > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: gnat for MacOS Tiger? 2006-08-15 1:57 ` Simon Williams @ 2006-08-17 3:25 ` Jim Hopper 2006-08-21 20:06 ` Simon Wright 1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Jim Hopper @ 2006-08-17 3:25 UTC (permalink / raw) By the way for some reason my news reader was posting my name as simon williams. i think i have it fixed now. Sorry about that. Jim Hopper ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: gnat for MacOS Tiger? 2006-08-15 1:57 ` Simon Williams 2006-08-17 3:25 ` Jim Hopper @ 2006-08-21 20:06 ` Simon Wright 1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Simon Wright @ 2006-08-21 20:06 UTC (permalink / raw) Simon Williams <williams@ntlworld.com> writes: > But keep in mind that if you get the version from adacore you can only > use it for producing Open source applications. the 4.2 compiler at > macada.org is built from the FSF sources so it retains the GMPL > exception. > > besides ours works with apples IDE xcode. ;-) You do get GPS from AdaCore instead (plus other goodies like full ASIS). But as Jim says it is GPL-only. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: gnat for MacOS Tiger? 2006-08-14 8:39 ` Javier Miranda 2006-08-15 1:57 ` Simon Williams @ 2006-08-27 22:34 ` David Shochat 2006-08-28 15:31 ` Martin Krischik ` (3 more replies) 1 sibling, 4 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: David Shochat @ 2006-08-27 22:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: jmiranda On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 04:39:21 -0400, Javier Miranda wrote: > On Aug 13, 2006, at 3:39 PM, David Shochat wrote: > >> So what does one need to do these days to get an Ada-capable gcc on >> OS X >> 10.4? > > Go to the Libre site of Adacore (https://libre2.adacore.com/), select > and download the ppc-darwin platform. Remember that if you want to > execute GPS you also need to install the X11 server, available at > Well, a PPC Darwin version won't work for me (I have Intel). But the main problem is that site. Hasn't worked all day, and doesn't even respond to ping. I found the regular adacore.com, but no mention of this site there. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: gnat for MacOS Tiger? 2006-08-27 22:34 ` David Shochat @ 2006-08-28 15:31 ` Martin Krischik 2006-08-28 18:42 ` Björn Persson ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Martin Krischik @ 2006-08-28 15:31 UTC (permalink / raw) David Shochat wrote: > On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 04:39:21 -0400, Javier Miranda wrote: > >> On Aug 13, 2006, at 3:39 PM, David Shochat wrote: >> >>> So what does one need to do these days to get an Ada-capable gcc on >>> OS X >>> 10.4? >> >> Go to the Libre site of Adacore (https://libre2.adacore.com/), select >> and download the ppc-darwin platform. Remember that if you want to >> execute GPS you also need to install the X11 server, available at > Well, a PPC Darwin version won't work for me (I have Intel). But the main > problem is that site. Hasn't worked all day, and doesn't even respond to > ping. I found the regular adacore.com, but no mention of this site there. You will need to compile your own toolchain. Not an easy task as you will need to start with a cross compiler. I currently work on an MinGW cross compiler and it isn't easy at all. Martin -- mailto://krischik@users.sourceforge.net Ada programming at: http://ada.krischik.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: gnat for MacOS Tiger? 2006-08-27 22:34 ` David Shochat 2006-08-28 15:31 ` Martin Krischik @ 2006-08-28 18:42 ` Björn Persson 2006-08-29 1:28 ` Jim Hopper 2006-09-01 18:08 ` David Brown 3 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Björn Persson @ 2006-08-28 18:42 UTC (permalink / raw) David Shochat wrote: > On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 04:39:21 -0400, Javier Miranda wrote: >> Go to the Libre site of Adacore (https://libre2.adacore.com/), > > Well, a PPC Darwin version won't work for me (I have Intel). But the main > problem is that site. Hasn't worked all day, and doesn't even respond to > ping. They seem to have a defective firewall that violates the TCP standard by messing up the window scale factor. If you still want to reach Libre, see if you can turn TCP window scaling off. (I have no idea how to do it in MacOS X.) That may work around the problem, but it limits your ability to utilize a high bandwidth. It's most likely that wirefall – sorry, firewall – that's blocking ping too. That's just the kind of pointless thing that broken firewalls like doing. -- Björn Persson PGP key A88682FD omb jor ers @sv ge. r o.b n.p son eri nu ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: gnat for MacOS Tiger? 2006-08-27 22:34 ` David Shochat 2006-08-28 15:31 ` Martin Krischik 2006-08-28 18:42 ` Björn Persson @ 2006-08-29 1:28 ` Jim Hopper 2006-09-01 18:08 ` David Brown 3 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Jim Hopper @ 2006-08-29 1:28 UTC (permalink / raw) i have a first cut at installers for gcc 4.2 and the ada plugin for xcode at links below (both compiler and xcode is in one installer). http://macada.org/Downloads/Compiler/Gnat_PPC-4.2.dmg http://macada.org/Downloads/Compiler/Gnati386-4.2.dmg In article <OZSdndoh4uhvgG_ZnZ2dnUVZ_rudnZ2d@comcast.com>, David Shochat <shochatd@yahoo.com> wrote: > Well, a PPC Darwin version won't work for me (I have Intel). But the main > problem is that site. Hasn't worked all day, and doesn't even respond to > ping. I found the regular adacore.com, but no mention of this site there. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: gnat for MacOS Tiger? 2006-08-27 22:34 ` David Shochat ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 2006-08-29 1:28 ` Jim Hopper @ 2006-09-01 18:08 ` David Brown 3 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: David Brown @ 2006-09-01 18:08 UTC (permalink / raw) David Shochat wrote: > Well, a PPC Darwin version won't work for me (I have Intel). But the main > problem is that site. Hasn't worked all day, and doesn't even respond to > ping. I found the regular adacore.com, but no mention of this site there. This is a bug in some router on the way to the host. It has to do with TCP window scaling. I'm not sure how to adjust this on OSX, but from linux, as root echo 0 > /proc/sys/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling will allow access to the host. Dave Brown ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
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