From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Self pointer in limited record
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 14:25:50 +0200
Date: 2007-09-06T14:25:18+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <13vaef9aa6hn8$.13mrgusdn917m.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1189074405.2630.257.camel@kartoffel.vocalweb.de
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:26:45 +0200, Georg Bauhaus wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 09:37 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:38:34 +0200, Georg Bauhaus wrote:
>>
>>> They can avoid surprises and nasty issues because they enforce body
>>> visibility of data objects. Example:
>>>
>>> <start of declarative part>
>>>
>>> package S is
>>> type T is limited private;
>>> procedure op(x: in out T);
>>> private
>>> type T is limited record
>>> null;
>>> end record;
>>> end S;
>>
>> This is IMO bad design, it should be:
>>
>> package S is -- Stateless
>> type T is limited private;
>> ...
>> end S;
>
> IIUC, this will still allow referencing S.T elsewhere.
> And even when S has only subprograms, they are visible to
> other parts of the program.
> But S was intended to be used by some procedure,
> and only by the procedure.
If you are paranoid about treacherous intentions of your colleges, then
make S a private child:
private package Data.S is
type T(<>) is limited private;
...
end Data.S;
>> package Data is -- Stateful
>> ... -- Operations having an instance of T as a hidden parameter
>> end Data;
>>
>> with S;
>> package body Data is
>> Singleton : S.T;
>> ...
>> end Data;
>>
>> There is no need to "with" S for anybody else,
>
> Do you think that "No need to with S" will convince programmers
> to not touch it?
Yes, I do hope they would not do it if I'd ask them, as well as many other
things one could do being inspired by the things declared in System,
Ada.Unchecked_xxx etc.
> When I need to make sure that S is not going
> to be used elsewhere, it needs to be hidden. What are the options?
Safe and consistent design. Consider what is T in your model? Why there has
to be only one instance of? Which meaning has this in terms of the
operations on T? Who knows, you might come to a conclusion that this
constraint is not really necessary or maybe that it is enforced
automatically when T is properly used.
In real-life designs there are usually far more access levels than just
public/private/body with fuzzy boundaries between them. You have to rely on
your design and good will of people working with you.
--
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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2007-07-04 19:31 Self pointer in limited record Maciej Sobczak
2007-07-05 8:22 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-07-05 10:35 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-07-05 11:01 ` Pascal Obry
2007-07-05 11:14 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-07-05 12:36 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-08-31 16:47 ` amado.alves
2007-08-31 17:09 ` Pascal Obry
2007-08-31 17:37 ` Adam Beneschan
2007-08-31 18:26 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-08-31 19:33 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-01 13:33 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-09-01 13:46 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-01 14:15 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-09-01 16:03 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-01 19:49 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-09-01 20:09 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-02 21:37 ` Georg Bauhaus
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2007-09-03 10:51 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-09-03 14:17 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-03 15:55 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-09-03 19:17 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-03 19:32 ` Markus E L
2007-09-03 20:14 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-09-04 8:24 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-04 9:36 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-09-04 10:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-05 10:49 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-09-05 12:04 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-05 13:12 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-09-05 15:10 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-05 16:25 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-09-05 19:52 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-06 7:19 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-09-06 9:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-06 11:53 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-09-06 15:35 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-05 18:31 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-09-05 19:52 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-05 21:38 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-09-06 7:37 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-06 10:26 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-09-06 12:25 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2007-09-08 1:27 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-06 9:14 ` Markus E L
2007-09-06 9:48 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-04 8:23 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-10-31 23:59 ` adaworks
2007-09-03 20:38 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-09-04 8:24 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-03 7:54 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-09-01 15:33 ` Markus E L
2007-09-04 14:55 ` Adam Beneschan
2007-09-04 15:09 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-09-08 1:36 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-04 17:31 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-09-08 1:16 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-10 16:27 ` amado.alves
2007-09-10 17:13 ` Adam Beneschan
2007-09-10 19:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-11 3:12 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-11 9:38 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-12 21:57 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-13 8:03 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-13 21:37 ` Randy Brukardt
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