From: Jerry <lanceboyle@qwest.net>
Subject: Re: How to check a Float for NaN
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 17:04:53 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2008-05-01T17:04:53-07:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <13e5c71c-627a-4176-891b-4371949565b4@p25g2000pri.googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 48197575$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net
On May 1, 1:04 am, "Stuart" <stu...@0.0> wrote:
> "Adam Beneschan" <a...@irvine.com> wrote in message
>
> news:93b0d930-102a-4ac4-8b85-48e87d9d3df1@j33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...> On Apr 30, 3:50 am, christoph.gr...@eurocopter.com wrote:
> >> On 30 Apr., 12:47, christoph.gr...@eurocopter.com wrote:
>
> >> > Try Float'Valid (X), see RM 13.9.2
>
> >> Ahem, I meant X'Valid for X of type Float
>
> <snip>
>
> > The problem here is that if you're dealing with NaN's on purpose,
> > you're not really dealing with Ada, as far as I can tell, unless your
> > purpose is to test for an uninitialized variable (in which case
> > X'Valid makes sense). Otherwise, though, NaN's and infinities are not
> > possible values of floating-point types, and therefore they can't be
> > returned by operations that return floating-point values, even if
> > Float'Machine_Overflows is False. (There are certain passages in the
> > RM that say a result is implementation-defined if the
> > Machine_Overflows attribute is False; however, I do not think
> > assigning a variable to an invalid value, as a NaN would be, is an
> > allowed "implementation-defined" result. 13.9.2(4-11) lists the ways
> > that invalid data could be created, and the "result of a floating-
> > point operation that cannot return a valid result" is not one of those
> > listed. Yes, I know that this is a NOTE and is not normative.)
>
> Would not 13.9.2(10) cover this:
> "disrupting an assignment due to the failure of a language-defined check
> (see 11.6)"
>
> Thus if a floating point operation creates a NaN, which would indicate an
> ill-conditioned computation that should violate some language-defined check,
> the object (X) that was to receive the result would be considered invalid.
>
> As noted elsewhere, 'valid encompasses more than NaNs - which may or may not
> suit the OPs purpose.
Not sure. Apparently, the plotting example I'm translating from C
needs to check for NaN when the underlying surface plot machinery is
working. It seems odd that this heavy a responsibility should appear
to the user in an example, but that's out of my control. I suppose
'valid would work since I doubt that other pathologies would arise.
Jerry
>
> Regards
> --
> Stuart
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Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-30 10:27 How to check a Float for NaN Jerry
2008-04-30 10:47 ` christoph.grein
2008-04-30 10:50 ` christoph.grein
2008-04-30 15:02 ` Adam Beneschan
2008-04-30 20:33 ` Jerry
2008-04-30 23:23 ` Adam Beneschan
2008-05-01 1:00 ` Adam Beneschan
2008-05-01 19:52 ` Keith Thompson
2008-05-01 23:57 ` Jerry
2008-04-30 23:29 ` Randy Brukardt
2008-05-01 8:04 ` Stuart
2008-05-01 14:38 ` Adam Beneschan
2008-05-01 17:14 ` Stuart
2008-05-01 19:22 ` Randy Brukardt
2008-05-02 0:04 ` Jerry [this message]
2008-04-30 20:36 ` Jerry
2008-04-30 21:53 ` Adam Beneschan
2008-05-01 1:05 ` Jerry
2014-05-22 7:27 ` jan.de.kruyf
2014-05-22 8:09 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-05-22 9:24 ` Simon Wright
2014-05-22 9:48 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-05-22 15:28 ` Adam Beneschan
2014-05-22 16:31 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-05-22 23:33 ` Adam Beneschan
2014-05-23 7:38 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-05-23 21:39 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-05-27 8:35 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-05-27 12:35 ` Maurizio Tomasi
2014-05-27 15:53 ` Adam Beneschan
2014-05-27 22:35 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-05-27 22:59 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-05-28 7:32 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-05-28 8:40 ` Maurizio Tomasi
2008-05-05 18:23 ` Martin Krischik
2008-05-05 20:49 ` Adam Beneschan
2008-05-06 18:09 ` Jerry
2008-05-06 18:45 ` Wiljan Derks
2008-05-06 22:18 ` Adam Beneschan
2008-05-07 22:56 ` Randy Brukardt
2008-05-07 22:56 ` Randy Brukardt
2008-05-07 23:20 ` Adam Beneschan
2008-05-09 7:24 ` Stephen Leake
2008-05-10 17:00 ` anon
2008-05-11 22:00 ` Keith Thompson
2008-05-12 2:01 ` anon
2008-05-09 19:49 ` anon
2008-05-10 2:36 ` Jerry
2008-05-10 3:53 ` anon
2008-05-10 6:24 ` christoph.grein
2008-05-10 8:05 ` Georg Bauhaus
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