From: Jason King <jhking@airmail.net>
Subject: Re: What is wrong with Ada?
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:21:08 -0500
Date: 2007-04-11T10:21:08-05:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <131pv6rmhhj51be@corp.supernews.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1176150704.130880.248080@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>
I'm an MIS guy not a CS guy and this is my take.
If I have a business task to accomplish I'm looking for the tool or set
of tools that will get my task accomplished quickly and the solution be
maintainable.
We don't use c/c++ at our shop because its difficult to get the task
accomplished quickly so we look to other tools. As we survey the
landscape we see vb, delphi, ada, java etc.
Initially ada looks very attractive because we're an Oracle shop and
pl/sql (the stored procedure/trigger language inside the Oracle db) is
based on ada-83. Then we look for database access, tools to build
client guis and tools to build web applications. The tools available
are substantially inferior in number and outside documentation to the
ones available for java. Then the bosses look around to see how hard it
is to hire new people for the shop as our client list expands. There
aren't a whole bunch of ada developers out there but there are schools
on several continents churning out armies of java developers. Maybe
the one ada developer is more productive than 1.5 or even two java
developers but when we have to overcome the lack of tools + the lack of
developers that makes us look other places.
In a world where we could search Amazon and find as many ada books as
java books or get as many cvs with ada experience as java experience
then ada would be an obvious choice. In the world as it exists the
availability of support materials and experienced developers outweighs
the technical merits of ada.
martinbishop wrote:
> I've never been scared of "non mainstream" languages, but I was
> wondering, what is wrong with Ada? Why don't more people use it?
> What
> do most people think of it? To me, it seems like a nice, concise, and
> safe language, but I haven't used it yet.
>
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2007-04-09 20:31 What is wrong with Ada? martinbishop
2007-04-10 1:14 ` Chip and Allie Orange
2007-04-10 8:32 ` gautier_niouzes
2007-04-10 18:21 ` Chip Orange
2007-04-10 1:15 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-04-10 9:02 ` Pascal Obry
2007-04-10 14:32 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-10 15:09 ` Pascal Obry
2007-04-10 15:39 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-10 16:12 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-04-10 17:31 ` Chad R. Meiners
2007-04-10 18:24 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-10 18:28 ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-04-10 20:22 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-11 9:40 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-04-11 11:20 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-11 23:45 ` Brian May
2007-04-12 7:40 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-04-12 16:44 ` kevin cline
2007-04-12 17:32 ` Pascal Obry
2007-04-12 16:46 ` kevin cline
2007-04-12 17:35 ` Pascal Obry
2007-04-21 2:13 ` adaworks
2007-04-21 9:49 ` Simon Wright
2007-04-21 14:15 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-22 7:38 ` adaworks
2007-04-23 1:33 ` Brian May
2007-04-21 18:33 ` adaworks
2007-04-12 18:11 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-16 14:25 ` Bob Spooner
2007-04-16 14:50 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-17 9:17 ` Pascal Obry
2007-04-17 10:04 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-17 15:02 ` Ed Falis
2007-04-17 15:48 ` Pascal Obry
2007-04-17 20:53 ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-04-18 0:21 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-04-18 8:16 ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-04-21 2:18 ` adaworks
2007-04-12 18:47 ` Robert A Duff
2007-04-12 19:39 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-12 19:54 ` Peter C. Chapin
2007-04-12 20:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-14 19:56 ` Chad R. Meiners
2007-04-13 0:16 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-14 7:01 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-14 10:48 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-15 13:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-15 16:01 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-15 17:51 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-15 21:41 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-15 22:00 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-16 8:26 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-16 9:04 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-17 7:58 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-17 9:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-17 10:46 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-17 10:48 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-15 23:06 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-22 21:50 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-23 19:26 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-23 20:39 ` Ray Blaak
2007-04-24 8:39 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-24 16:43 ` Ray Blaak
2007-04-23 22:02 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-14 22:49 ` Robert A Duff
2007-04-14 23:39 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-23 21:16 ` Larry Kilgallen
2007-04-23 21:21 ` Ray Blaak
2007-04-23 22:15 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-12 21:18 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-13 7:39 ` Stuart
2007-04-13 9:05 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-13 0:10 ` Brian May
2007-04-13 8:55 ` Harald Korneliussen
2007-04-14 22:47 ` Robert A Duff
2007-04-14 19:50 ` Chad R. Meiners
2007-04-14 22:52 ` Robert A Duff
2007-04-14 19:28 ` Chad R. Meiners
2007-04-16 8:50 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-04-16 9:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-16 9:56 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-16 16:45 ` Robert A Duff
2007-04-17 9:05 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-04-17 14:51 ` Robert A Duff
2007-04-22 7:42 ` adaworks
2007-04-10 18:15 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-20 16:34 ` adaworks
2007-04-10 19:44 ` Simon Wright
2007-04-10 20:43 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-10 22:02 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-10 22:15 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-11 8:59 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-20 16:25 ` adaworks
2007-04-20 20:35 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-21 5:51 ` adaworks
2007-04-25 0:10 ` Chad R. Meiners
2007-04-10 15:59 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-04-10 16:31 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-10 18:08 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-11 23:05 ` kevin cline
2007-04-12 7:55 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-12 10:43 ` Peter C. Chapin
2007-04-12 13:04 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-13 10:46 ` Harald Korneliussen
2007-04-13 16:25 ` Adam Beneschan
2007-04-14 23:41 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-22 7:54 ` adaworks
2007-04-21 18:50 ` adaworks
2007-04-21 19:53 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
[not found] ` <H5EWh.6302$H_5.612@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net>
2007-04-22 9:33 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-10 23:43 ` Brian May
2007-04-12 14:25 ` Bob Spooner
2007-04-13 0:22 ` Brian May
2007-04-23 2:25 ` Justin Gombos
2007-05-16 1:29 ` Adrian Hoe
2007-04-10 1:25 ` Brian May
2007-04-10 1:48 ` martinbishop
2007-04-10 8:33 ` gautier_niouzes
2007-04-10 14:58 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-10 19:05 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-04-10 20:27 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-12 1:18 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-04-12 13:02 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-12 8:47 ` Ada vendor FAQ (was: What is wrong with Ada?) Ludovic Brenta
2007-04-11 15:21 ` Jason King [this message]
2007-04-11 17:53 ` What is wrong with Ada? tmoran
2007-04-12 18:55 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2007-04-13 2:59 ` Jason King
2007-04-13 9:03 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-14 15:28 ` Jason King
2007-04-16 16:48 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-21 12:56 ` AJAskey
2007-04-21 13:50 ` jimmaureenrogers
2007-04-21 14:46 ` AJAskey
2007-04-21 15:43 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-23 1:37 ` Brian May
2007-04-21 15:48 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-21 21:42 ` jimmaureenrogers
[not found] ` <vzwWh.2452$Ut6.1591@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>
2007-04-22 0:53 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-25 0:20 ` Chad R. Meiners
2007-04-25 9:57 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-25 11:19 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-25 11:54 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-25 13:24 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-25 13:41 ` adaworks
2007-04-26 3:24 ` jimmaureenrogers
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