From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: tagged record child: override constructor?
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:31:16 +0200
Date: 2005-09-15T09:31:07+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <12v93t1k4i81i$.sm5jmg8q3lpk$.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1126731371.081850.90860@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
On 14 Sep 2005 13:56:11 -0700, Hyman Rosen wrote:
> Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>> There is no point in adopting what other languages did wrong.
>
> Except that Ada isn't doing things any differently than the
> other languages, it's just adopted a notation that makes it
> confusing. Ada *does* allow redispatch, type tags *are* in
> every tagged object, you *can* convert from the type to the
> classwide type, tagged objects are *always* passed by
> reference.
Ada's model is the *only* model I know which allows:
1. A universal-purpose language (like C++ or Ada) to become a pure OO
language.
2. To support multiple dispatch
3. To avoid distributed overhead
4. To create a consistent construction/destruction model
OK, these opportunities weren't used, so what?
> But where C++ and Java will make dispatching
> calls where those are indicated by the class specification,
> Ada forces the programmer to request such calls in a strange
> way at call sites, and since there's nothing syntactically
> wrong with making a non-dispatching call, the programmer won't
> notice the mistake if that request isn't made.
Which mistake? Again, it is solely the actual object's *type* which
determines dispatch. It is 100% safe, intuitive and unambiguous. Ada is a
typed language! Is C++ one?
>> As I said before, it is equivalent to dispatch that does not happen.
>
> You may say it all you like, but my code clearly demonstrates
> that dispatching *does* happen. B::B() calls A::g()
No. It calls B::g() which was inherited from A. I don't care if code of
B::g() and A::g() share memory or not. They are different functions because
their signatures are different.
> and that dispatches to B::f().
It does not. It calls B::f() from B::g()
--
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-09-13 5:58 tagged record child: override constructor? sean.gilbertson
2005-09-13 6:39 ` David Trudgett
2005-09-13 7:32 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-09-13 7:56 ` tmoran
2005-09-13 15:23 ` sean.gilbertson
2005-09-13 17:37 ` Martin Krischik
2005-09-13 19:29 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-14 7:49 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-09-14 9:05 ` Maciej Sobczak
2005-09-14 13:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-09-14 13:52 ` Hyman Rosen
2005-09-14 16:47 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-09-14 17:16 ` Hyman Rosen
2005-09-14 20:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-09-14 20:34 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-09-14 20:56 ` Hyman Rosen
2005-09-15 7:31 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2005-09-15 13:19 ` Hyman Rosen
2005-09-15 13:45 ` Maciej Sobczak
2005-09-15 17:45 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-09-15 18:54 ` Hyman Rosen
2005-09-16 9:32 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-09-16 14:52 ` Hyman Rosen
2005-09-16 15:33 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2005-09-16 18:37 ` Hyman Rosen
2005-09-16 21:03 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-09-16 21:33 ` Hyman Rosen
[not found] ` <98ox2x9xvj9z.1uh92dslhvt4g.dlg@40tude.net>
2005-09-17 12:47 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-09-17 15:56 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-09-14 16:14 ` Martin Krischik
2005-09-14 16:57 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-09-14 18:35 ` Martin Krischik
2005-09-14 9:28 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2005-09-14 16:10 ` Martin Krischik
2005-09-13 9:33 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-09-13 16:37 ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-09-13 18:55 ` Robert A Duff
2005-09-13 22:18 ` Jeffrey Carter
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