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From: ian0kerr@my-deja.com (Ian)
Subject: Re: Joint Strike Fighter
Date: 2 Nov 2001 08:16:20 -0800
Date: 2001-11-02T16:16:20+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <11bf7180.0111020816.2e376fd5@posting.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3be2614e.882178@news.demon.co.uk

john.mccabe@emrad.com.nospam (John McCabe) wrote in message news:<3be2614e.882178@news.demon.co.uk>...
> On 1 Nov 2001 03:38:12 -0800, ian0kerr@my-deja.com (Ian) wrote:
 
> >Working currently on the VSTOL predecessor of JSF.
GR.7
> I don't find
> >anything that we need from Ada and the available tools that C++ would
> >provide.
 
> I'm confused by this comment, can you please explain it in slightly
> different words?

Ada provides us with everything we need. C++ does not have an
advantage for us.

> >GENESYS An Application of OO technology to Aircraft Display Systems,
> >Neil Davidson, BAE Systems Avionics Ltd, Presented in Symposium on
> >Reliable Object Orientated Programming, at Institution of Electrical
> >Engineers, Savoy Place, London, 24th October 2001.

> Wow - I Had no idea there was a process in place in your department.

If you want a copy of the above, email me your snail address. :-;

Well as Ron D. wrote a process, a while back, for your department why
would you think we would be different?

> I thought BAE *and* AeI were having
> problems recruiting good, permanent Ada engineers because:
 
The turn over is quite low and we get replacements quickly. 

> 1) They don't pay enough
Money is not everything especially if the project is not the usual
shambles!
> 2) Many people don't want to do Ada!
 
> >I have done courses on
> >statecharts, UML, UML to Ada95 code generation, Test instrumentation
> >tools for Ada and  Ada95 updates.
 
> That's good - we never got *any* training on the rig team!

You should have asked your management as we had problems spending all
the training money one year. Probably because other departments did
not encourage training.
 
> >I don't think it is that difficult to do avionics in Ada95 if you
> >already know C++ properly, (assuming some knowledge of SW Engineering
> >principles).
 
> That depends on how flexible you are, and how much OO you want to use.
> Looking at it the other way, I don't think it would be difficult to do
> avionics in C++ if you already know Ada properly

So why not just write it in Ada in the first place?

> - and it will
> certainly be more reliable if you have to use C++,
 Even my C++ course teacher thought that C++ was a dangerous language.

> to use Ada trained
> developers to do the job than those who have only ever used C/C++
> based languages!

I hope you are happer where you are now.

Ian



  reply	other threads:[~2001-11-02 16:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-29  4:55 Joint Strike Fighter Richard Riehle
2001-10-29 11:11 ` Ian
2001-10-31  6:38   ` Richard Riehle
2001-10-31 13:38     ` David Botton
2001-10-31 16:15     ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-31 16:25       ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-01  4:44         ` JF Harrison
2001-11-01 14:41           ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-03 16:58             ` Richard Riehle
2001-11-03 18:52               ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-05 15:30                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-06  2:07                   ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-06 16:46                   ` Rex Reges
2001-11-06 18:17                     ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-06 19:07                     ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-11-06 21:19                       ` Rex Reges
2001-11-06 23:01                         ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-11-08 14:55                         ` Rex Reges
     [not found]                         ` <Wa+tfCvHgQXH@eisner.e <3BEA9CED.8C6BF839@reges.org>
2001-11-08 15:43                           ` Ian Wild
2001-11-08 22:18                             ` Rex Reges
2001-11-22  6:25                               ` David Thompson
2001-11-08 16:23                         ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-11-08 13:53                     ` Marc A. Criley
2001-11-08 22:15                       ` Rex Reges
2001-11-09 12:44                         ` Marc A. Criley
2001-11-09 15:41                           ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-09 15:35                     ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-10  6:56                       ` john flynn
2001-11-04  1:08               ` David Botton
2001-11-05 14:59               ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-01 14:55           ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-01 21:47           ` P Norby
2001-11-02 17:02           ` P Norby
     [not found]           ` <003301c163c0$289f8c60$45d82c41@vaio>
2001-11-02 19:54             ` JF Harrison
     [not found]             ` <002a01c163d8$25bb4440$2702a8c0@WorkGroup>
2001-11-02 20:40               ` JF Harrison
2001-11-01 11:38         ` Ian
2001-11-01 14:51           ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-02  9:08           ` John McCabe
2001-11-02 16:16             ` Ian [this message]
2001-11-02 17:04               ` John McCabe
2001-11-29 16:48           ` Matthew Heaney
2001-11-29 17:12             ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-30 12:49               ` Simon Wright
2001-11-30 14:46                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-30 16:37                   ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-30 15:03                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-30 16:26                   ` Simon Wright
2001-11-30 16:39                     ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-30 17:08                     ` Pat Rogers
2001-11-30 22:53                     ` Chad R. Meiners
2001-12-01  8:08                       ` Simon Wright
2001-10-29 15:02 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-29 17:55 ` Paul A Storm
2001-11-01  4:46   ` Richard Riehle
2001-11-02 20:03 ` Dirk Craeynest
2001-11-07  3:57 ` Vincent Marciante
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