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From: Hyman Rosen <hyman.rosen@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Suggestions for topics in an Ada course?
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:12:33 -0000
Date: 2007-11-12T18:12:33+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1194891153.879253.44670@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yc0_i.20310$lD6.18442@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>

On Nov 12, 12:38 pm, <adawo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "Hyman Rosen" <hyman.ro...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > Ada's type safety, modules, and visibilty rules are not all that
> > different from those in languages like C++ or Java.
>
> Granted, someone could write readable C++ code

You missed my point. In this posting, I wasn't making any claims for C+
+'s superiority. I was saying that languages like C++ and Java have
their own versions of visibility issues and type safety, and so any
modern programmer will be familiar with those concepts.

The OP said "Those students who have a strong dislike for software
engineering principles are the least likely to appreciate Ada." Even
if Ada has differences in the way it handles pointers, visibility, and
type safety, I find it difficult to attribute a student's dislike of
Ada to a dislike of software engineering principles. How are these
principles embodied in Ada such that they would be so foreign and
hateful to programmers in other languages? What is it that someone who
hates software engineering principles can do in Java that cannot be
done in Ada?

That's why I would like to hear from the students themselves.




  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-12 18:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-11 16:09 Suggestions for topics in an Ada course? Peter C. Chapin
2007-11-11 17:15 ` Jeffrey Creem
2007-11-11 18:29   ` Peter C. Chapin
2007-11-11 19:32 ` Larry Kilgallen
2007-11-12 11:33   ` Peter C. Chapin
2007-11-12  0:02 ` Ed Falis
2007-11-12 11:44   ` Peter C. Chapin
2007-11-12  0:59 ` Steve
2007-11-12  4:29   ` wilson
2007-11-12 11:39     ` Peter C. Chapin
2007-11-12 13:34       ` Brian Drummond
2007-11-13  3:31         ` Peter C. Chapin
2007-11-13 13:50           ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-11-13 13:53           ` Brian Drummond
2007-11-12  7:42   ` adaworks
2007-11-12 11:40     ` Peter C. Chapin
2007-11-12 11:57   ` Stefan Lucks
2007-11-12 11:54 ` Stefan Lucks
2007-11-13  3:27   ` Peter C. Chapin
2007-11-12 11:56 ` anon
2007-11-12 15:53   ` John McCormick
2007-11-12 16:12     ` Hyman Rosen
2007-11-12 16:13       ` Hyman Rosen
2007-11-12 17:38       ` adaworks
2007-11-12 18:12         ` Hyman Rosen [this message]
2007-11-12 17:45     ` adaworks
2007-11-12 20:45       ` Jerry Petrey
2007-11-13  3:33     ` Peter C. Chapin
2007-11-13  5:17       ` jimmaureenrogers
2007-11-16 15:48 ` Marco
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