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From: Maciej Sobczak <see.my.homepage@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Containers - nontrivial element access
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 13:47:57 -0700
Date: 2007-10-02T13:47:57-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1191358077.531499.198290@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5mdfipFcv1dsU1@mid.individual.net>

On 2 Pa , 01:52, "Alex R. Mosteo" <devn...@mailinator.com> wrote:

> I'm not sure the solution is clunky, unless you consider verbose=clunky.

The point is that in order to swap data, you need to pass the new
value to the modifying procedure. Since there are no on-the-fly
binders, this value has to be provided by additional variable, which
exists outside of the procedure, which access is passed. This looks
like a dodgy hack: I provide a procedure, which is not self-contained
anyway, so I also sneak around the value.

I have nothing against the procedure, even if it is longer (/= clunky)
than what I can do in C++. I have, however, a *serious* problem with
sneaking this value around.
This *is* clunky.

> There are additional differences, if I'm not mistaken (my C++ is a bit
> outdated). [] is, I think, unchecked (unlike .at()), so you could get a
> violation with that code that shouldn't be possible in Ada.

You are half right. The standard does not require [] to be checked. It
does not forbid it, either.

The point is not about [], actually, but about references. I might
have written my example like this:

swap(people.at(x).salary, people.at(y).salary);

and then you would not have been able to nit-pick on the possible
violation. :-)

--
Maciej Sobczak * www.msobczak.com * www.inspirel.com




  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-10-02 20:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-01 21:55 Containers - nontrivial element access Maciej Sobczak
2007-10-01 23:52 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2007-10-02 16:40   ` Matthew Heaney
2007-10-02 23:16     ` Alex R. Mosteo
2007-10-02 20:47   ` Maciej Sobczak [this message]
2007-10-02 23:23     ` Alex R. Mosteo
2007-10-02  0:39 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-10-02 16:44   ` Matthew Heaney
2007-10-03  0:20     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-10-03 19:40       ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-10-03 19:56         ` Matthew Heaney
2007-10-03 20:21           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-10-03 22:37             ` Matthew Heaney
2007-10-04  8:06               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-10-03 22:02         ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-10-04  0:16         ` Robert A Duff
2007-10-07  8:41           ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2007-10-11 19:15             ` Robert A Duff
2007-10-14  4:59               ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2007-10-14  7:24                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-10-14 13:49                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-10-14 15:07                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-10-02 20:50   ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-10-03  0:22     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-10-03  8:26       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-10-03 18:49         ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-10-03 19:09           ` Matthew Heaney
2007-10-03 19:15           ` Simon Wright
2007-10-03 19:48             ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-10-03 19:58             ` Matthew Heaney
2007-10-03 19:35           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-10-02  2:34 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-10-02 16:47   ` Matthew Heaney
2007-10-02  7:23 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-10-02 16:37 ` Matthew Heaney
2007-10-02 21:02   ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-10-02 22:20     ` Matthew Heaney
2007-10-03 19:59       ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-10-03 22:55         ` Matthew Heaney
2007-10-04  0:22         ` Robert A Duff
2007-10-04 13:01         ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-10-04 14:01           ` Matthew Heaney
2007-10-04 21:58           ` Matthew Heaney
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