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From: Maciej Sobczak <see.my.homepage@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Reconsidering assignment
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 00:15:46 -0700
Date: 2007-06-07T00:15:46-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1181200546.608422.95280@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <usl94pufq.fsf@STRIPCAPStelus.net>

On 7 Cze, 00:52, Ray Blaak <rAYbl...@STRIPCAPStelus.net> wrote:

> > procedure To_Upper(S : in out String);
>
> > Such a procedure is perfectly reasonable.
> > What is not reasonable is this:
>
> > procedure Swap(X, Y : in out String);
>
> I don't see the difference. Consider:
>
>   declare
>     s : String := "123";
>   begin
>     To_Upper(s);
>   end;
>
>   procedure To_Upper(S : in out String)
>   begin
>     s := "12345678";
>   end;

Good point, but the solution is simple: ban it. :-)
You can ban it on the basis that the modifying operation (the s :=
"12345678") operates in (ie. potentially modifies) the constraint-
space in the context where the constraint itself is statically
unknown.

This is OK:

procedure To_Upper(S : in out String) is
begin
  for I in S'First .. S'Last loop
    S(I) := ...;
  end loop;
end;

Above none of the modifying operation (well, there is only one)
operates in the constraint-space of S.

> > procedure Safe_Swap(X, Y : in out String) with X'Length = Y'Length;
>
> Ugh. This is tedious. Seems easier to me to just let the contraint error happen.

The whole Ada is tedious. Let's move to Python, where even the chore
of writing begin/end is eliminated. ;-)


> If you really need this, also have a way to just say "with matching
> constraints" directly, e.g.
>
>   with X'Subtype = Y'Subtype
>
> That way one does not have to get all explicit for other types that have many
> explicit constraints.

Yes, that makes sense.

--
Maciej Sobczak
http://www.msobczak.com/




  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-07  7:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-06 21:33 Reconsidering assignment Maciej Sobczak
2007-06-06 22:52 ` Ray Blaak
2007-06-07  7:15   ` Maciej Sobczak [this message]
2007-06-07 16:34     ` Ray Blaak
2007-06-07  7:10 ` Stefan Lucks
2007-06-07  7:32   ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-06-07 11:11     ` Stefan Lucks
2007-06-07 16:28   ` Ray Blaak
2007-06-07  9:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-06-07 16:54   ` contracted exceptions (was Re: Reconsidering assignment) Ray Blaak
2007-06-07 20:04     ` contracted exceptions Robert A Duff
2007-06-07 21:11       ` Ray Blaak
2007-06-07 23:44         ` Robert A Duff
2007-06-08  2:19       ` Randy Brukardt
2007-06-08  7:39         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-06-08  8:53           ` Ray Blaak
2007-06-08 12:08             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-06-08 17:31               ` Ray Blaak
2007-06-08 18:00                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-06-08 18:20                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-06-08 18:56                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-06-08 19:15                   ` Simon Wright
2007-06-09  0:14                     ` Randy Brukardt
2007-06-09  2:44                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2007-06-09  8:21                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-06-09 12:32                       ` Simon Wright
2007-06-09 18:38                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-06-09 21:04                           ` Simon Wright
2007-06-10  9:21                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-06-10 11:49                               ` Simon Wright
2007-06-10 15:20                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-06-11  4:13                                   ` Ray Blaak
2007-06-11  7:58                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-06-11 17:06                                       ` Ray Blaak
2007-06-11 19:57                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-06-10 18:14                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-06-10 18:12                               ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-06-11  7:55                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-06-11 14:15                         ` Bob Spooner
2007-06-11 15:14                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-06-11 15:20                             ` (see below)
2007-06-11 16:39                               ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-06-11 19:50                           ` Simon Wright
2007-06-08 11:26         ` Martin Krischik
2007-06-08 12:02         ` Robert A Duff
2007-06-08 11:22     ` contracted exceptions (was Re: Reconsidering assignment) Martin Krischik
2007-06-08 17:44       ` Ray Blaak
2007-06-08 12:10     ` contracted exceptions Robert A Duff
2007-06-08 15:56       ` Stefan Lucks
2007-06-08 20:27         ` Pascal Obry
2007-06-09  0:19           ` Randy Brukardt
2007-06-09 18:04             ` Robert A Duff
2007-06-09 18:37               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-06-09 20:43                 ` Robert A Duff
2007-06-10  9:21                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-06-11 19:18                   ` Randy Brukardt
2007-06-12  6:55                     ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-06-08 17:40       ` Ray Blaak
2007-06-09 18:14         ` Robert A Duff
2007-06-08 19:18       ` Simon Wright
2007-06-09 22:37   ` Reconsidering assignment Maciej Sobczak
2007-06-10  9:21     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-06-11  9:04       ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-06-11 13:09         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-06-11 18:57     ` Randy Brukardt
2007-06-11 21:12       ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-06-12  8:31         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-06-12  9:31           ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-06-12 10:03             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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