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From: Georg Bauhaus <bauhaus@futureapps.de>
Subject: Re: Generic Package
Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 11:02:22 +0200
Date: 2007-05-01T11:02:22+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1178010142.6695.29.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1ieq3io2d6nnq$.13818v3y35gnr.dlg@40tude.net>

On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 22:04 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>  It was that if foreach were a primitive operation
> defined on an unordered set, then its contract could not be stated.

Every specific Set object (collection of elements) inside a computer has
a memory layout. That is, for every specific set object there
exists an index set, the collection of addresses that maps elements
1:1 onto a set of pairwise disjoint natural numbers.

Since, I think, we are talking about computer representations of
sets, the fact of representation
 (1) establishes some order
 (2) hence allows arguing about First, ..., Foreach in terms of
     the general (and specifically unknown) properties of every
     representation.

For every finite set that doesn't fit into core memory,
use garbage collection (a job for the librarian you mentioned).
Define the element index number via a pair of numbers (time, address).
These, again, can be enumerated.

> To be able to pick a random member <=>
> to have an order.

Can you determine whether one of your sets is empty?






  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-05-01  9:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-25 22:15 Generic Package andrew.carroll
2007-04-26  0:07 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-04-26  7:46   ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-26  6:02 ` Martin Krischik
2007-04-26  7:57 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-26 15:31 ` andrew.carroll
2007-04-26 16:07   ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-26 19:40     ` andrew.carroll
2007-04-26 20:01       ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-26 18:54   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-26 21:52     ` Simon Wright
2007-04-27  9:00       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-27 11:11         ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-27 12:06           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-27 12:52             ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-27 14:10             ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-27 14:16               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-27 21:44                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-28  7:38                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-28 17:50                     ` Simon Wright
2007-04-28 21:04                     ` Ray Blaak
2007-04-29 16:33                       ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-27 19:44             ` Simon Wright
2007-04-27 20:34               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-27 21:16                 ` Simon Wright
2007-04-28  7:36                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-27 11:43         ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-28 17:35           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-28 23:06             ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-29  8:19               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-29 15:10                 ` (see below)
2007-04-29 17:48                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-29 22:36                     ` (see below)
2007-04-30  6:58                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-30  9:59                         ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-30 10:01                         ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-30 10:36                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-30 10:40                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-30 12:14                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-30 14:57                         ` (see below)
2007-04-30 10:30                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-30 12:16                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-30 14:48                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-30 16:29                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-30 17:24                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-30 18:54                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-30 19:29                         ` Simon Wright
2007-04-30 20:04                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-05-01  0:11                             ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-01  9:02                             ` Georg Bauhaus [this message]
2007-05-01 10:19                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-05-01 13:42                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-05-01 17:16                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-05-01 19:14                                     ` Randy Brukardt
2007-05-01 20:14                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-05-02  7:52                                         ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-02  8:06                                       ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-03  0:37                                         ` Randy Brukardt
2007-05-03  8:36                                           ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-03 23:16                                             ` Randy Brukardt
2007-05-04  0:15                                               ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-01 21:41                                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-05-02  6:57                                       ` Ray Blaak
2007-05-02  8:22                                         ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-02  8:07                                       ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-02 10:29                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-05-02 11:48                                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-05-02 11:50                                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-05-02 13:12                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-05-02 14:21                                             ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-03 18:27                                             ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-05-03 19:07                                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-05-03 19:49                                                 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-29 16:26             ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-26 21:50   ` Simon Wright
2007-04-27  4:45   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-04-27  7:45     ` Martin Krischik
2007-04-27 22:54       ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-30 20:13         ` Matthew Heaney
2007-04-26 20:48 ` andrew.carroll
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-12-02 23:15 Mr. J.
2003-12-03  9:31 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-02 23:13 generic package Ratson Janiv
2003-12-03 17:39 ` Stephen Leake
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