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From: Georg Bauhaus <bauhaus@futureapps.de>
Subject: Re: Generic Package
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:06:52 +0200
Date: 2007-04-29T01:06:52+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1177801611.10171.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <19qllkvm6ut42$.1iqo74vjgmsrv$.dlg@40tude.net>

On Sat, 2007-04-28 at 19:35 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:


> Yes, because that set is a representation [model] of some other [domain
> space] set which could be fundamentally unordered and/or uncountable.

Should we therefore tie the notion of iterating something to
procedures that a computer can't perform? ;-)

>  As an
> example consider merits of the loop:
> 
>    for X in 0.0..1.0 loop
> 
> Fortunately the above is illegal in Ada. Not because it were impossible:
> 
> declare
>    X : Float := 0.0;
> begin
>    while X <= 1.0 loop
>       ...
>       X := Float'Succ (X);
>    end loop;
> 
> but because it is a mess.
> 
> After interating reals we could proceed to complex numbers...

And on to more not fully representable things such as collections
of tuples made to correspond to the elements of a suitably defined
Cauchy sequence.
If only computers could produce the elements of more than zero
uncountable sets ...

Like Simon, I'm not sure I'm familiar with your iteration;
my containers would be providing iteration if they can do one of

- take a subprogram (e.g.) and call it for each of a collection
  of elements

- provide access to an element and then the next if any where the
  meaning of "next" is specified in the collection's contract 

The amount of determinism need not be 100%. E.g., the post-condition
if Iterate that each element is visited once, in no particular order,
seems reasonable to me.

http://www.icsi.berkeley.edu/~sather/Publications/toplas.html

Is there iteration in the following SETL expression?

  Result := { x : x in {1, 3, 24, 17, 11} | P(x) };






  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-28 23:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-25 22:15 Generic Package andrew.carroll
2007-04-26  0:07 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-04-26  7:46   ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-26  6:02 ` Martin Krischik
2007-04-26  7:57 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-26 15:31 ` andrew.carroll
2007-04-26 16:07   ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-26 19:40     ` andrew.carroll
2007-04-26 20:01       ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-26 18:54   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-26 21:52     ` Simon Wright
2007-04-27  9:00       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-27 11:11         ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-27 12:06           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-27 12:52             ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-27 14:10             ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-27 14:16               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-27 21:44                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-28  7:38                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-28 17:50                     ` Simon Wright
2007-04-28 21:04                     ` Ray Blaak
2007-04-29 16:33                       ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-27 19:44             ` Simon Wright
2007-04-27 20:34               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-27 21:16                 ` Simon Wright
2007-04-28  7:36                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-27 11:43         ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-28 17:35           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-28 23:06             ` Georg Bauhaus [this message]
2007-04-29  8:19               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-29 15:10                 ` (see below)
2007-04-29 17:48                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-29 22:36                     ` (see below)
2007-04-30  6:58                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-30  9:59                         ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-30 10:01                         ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-30 10:36                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-30 10:40                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-30 12:14                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-30 14:57                         ` (see below)
2007-04-30 10:30                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-30 12:16                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-30 14:48                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-30 16:29                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-30 17:24                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-30 18:54                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-30 19:29                         ` Simon Wright
2007-04-30 20:04                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-05-01  0:11                             ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-01  9:02                             ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-05-01 10:19                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-05-01 13:42                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-05-01 17:16                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-05-01 19:14                                     ` Randy Brukardt
2007-05-01 20:14                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-05-02  7:52                                         ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-02  8:06                                       ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-03  0:37                                         ` Randy Brukardt
2007-05-03  8:36                                           ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-03 23:16                                             ` Randy Brukardt
2007-05-04  0:15                                               ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-01 21:41                                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-05-02  6:57                                       ` Ray Blaak
2007-05-02  8:22                                         ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-02  8:07                                       ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-02 10:29                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-05-02 11:48                                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-05-02 11:50                                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-05-02 13:12                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-05-02 14:21                                             ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-03 18:27                                             ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-05-03 19:07                                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-05-03 19:49                                                 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-29 16:26             ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-26 21:50   ` Simon Wright
2007-04-27  4:45   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-04-27  7:45     ` Martin Krischik
2007-04-27 22:54       ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-30 20:13         ` Matthew Heaney
2007-04-26 20:48 ` andrew.carroll
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-12-02 23:15 Mr. J.
2003-12-03  9:31 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-02 23:13 generic package Ratson Janiv
2003-12-03 17:39 ` Stephen Leake
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