From: "Ludovic Brenta" <ludovic@ludovic-brenta.org>
Subject: Re: Why C for the Open Source Movement?
Date: 6 Jun 2006 08:35:15 -0700
Date: 2006-06-06T08:35:15-07:00 [thread overview]
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thvv writes :
> Ludovic Brenta wrote:
>> zeta_no writes :
>>> Isn't the Unix tradition based on well crafted design mecanisms?
>>
>> No, it's not. It started as a hack made by a few long-haired, rebel
>> programmers in their spare time, bazaar-style. In contrast, MULTICS was
>> intended to be a beautiful cathedral of software, and I think it was
>> written in PL/I not C. MULTICS is still not complete, and I think it'll
>> take as long to complete as it took actual cathedrals :)
>
> Dick Gabriel is welcome to his opinion,
Who is Dick Gabriel?
> but as someone who worked on Multics with the creators of UNIX in
> the 60s I have to say that I don't see it that way. Multics was not
> rigorously planned first and then executed; our design and
> implementation evolved over 20 years. We did have this pattern of
> writing something and discussing it before coding, and often the
> discussion led to an improved design. Multicians felt that we were
> rebels, back in the 60s, fighting against batch processing, writing
> systems in assembler, and using human waves of programmers. We
> advocated flexibility, virtual memory, interactiveness, and powerful
> tools. Ken and Dennis did not have the longest hair or wildest
> beards on the Multics development team.
:-) Thanks a lot for correcting me. I am honoured that you gave us
this first-hand information. Multics is quite a legend to me, a bit
like dragons; now I feel like I've just met an actual dragon slayer :)
Still, would you agree that Multics used The Right Thing approach, as
opposed to Unix which uses Worse Is Better?
--
Ludovic Brenta.
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Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-05-06 19:28 Why C for the Open Source Movement? zeta_no
2006-05-06 19:55 ` Jeffrey Creem
2006-05-08 3:46 ` kevin cline
2006-05-08 9:05 ` Ludovic Brenta
2006-05-08 9:13 ` Ludovic Brenta
2006-05-08 12:05 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-05-08 13:12 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-06-06 14:24 ` thvv
2006-06-06 15:35 ` Ludovic Brenta [this message]
2006-06-06 15:47 ` Ed Falis
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